Shepherd's Heart

God shed His grace on Thee

Posted Thursday, June 27, 2013, at 8:00 AM
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  • Current opinion is that the majority of the colonists were fence sitters. We have certainly clung to that tradition. ;)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 1:05 AM
  • THe Majority of colonists may have been fence sitters, but at least the "founding fathers" were actully willing to risk something, everything in fact. Unlike the cowards we elect in this day and age.

    -- Posted by Armour-of-God on Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 7:46 AM
  • Would they sign it if they could see what is happening today

    -- Posted by h2oboy on Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 12:00 PM
  • I read somewhere that once when a rebellious group of colonials faced conflicts at one of their meetings, the majority picked up their hats and coats and started to leave.

    Then one of them spoke up ..."Wait a minute, gentlemen," he said. "This is a country conceived in faith in God. Many of us believe in the power of prayer. Let us get upon our knees and pray to Almighty God and see whether God shall give to us the answer to our dilemma."

    Upon their knees those men went, and out of that prayer meeting (called on the spot by Benjamin Franklin) came the Constitution of the United States of America.

    I hope that same document can live on in a world that no longer believes in prayer, or that the nation was founded on faith in God.

    -- Posted by shep on Fri, Jun 28, 2013, at 3:01 PM
  • A lot of the founding fathers were trying to hang onto the land that they had acquired. They weren't happy about paying taxes either and they committed treason.

    It worked out fine for all concerned, but that's what really happened.

    -- Posted by Interested Too on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 9:13 AM
  • Whoa Hoss -

    You may have a point concerning the framers wanting to hold on to what they felt was theirs - and I think that's a lot of what's happening today ... The difference is the framers had huge estates ... Thousands of square miles of land ... And tidy businesses that brought a handy profit (unless they were taxed too heavily by their far away King) ...

    In contrast - those opposing the far-reaching-privacy-stealing government today are mostly average Joes who are being nickled and dimed to death (and into near-poverty) so the government can feed, medicate, and generally just take care of those who refuse to work or who come across our borders to reap the benefits of government handouts ... or those who have turned themselves into baby-making machines in order get a "raise" every year or so.

    There's a big difference.


    -- Posted by gentle ben on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 10:49 AM
  • Hi gb,

    I don't get your point.

    I wasn't talking about today's people. I was trying to explain that, religious or not, prayerful or not, the founding father's were definitely looking after their own skins first and foremost. I also stated that it turned out well for all concerned. I said nothing about today's troubles.

    There are so many differences that the two times barely equate to each other.

    -- Posted by Interested Too on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 1:29 PM
  • Anyway gb, and my other friends of the blogosphere.

    My subscription ends today, so you'll likely get the last word.


    -- Posted by Interested Too on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 1:38 PM
  • IT -

    Sorry bout the confusion ...

    And I think you can still get to the regular blogs/comment sections without a subscription - you just can't read and comment on the articles.

    I'll probably see you on the main page comments or on the religion and/or politics section .. Hope so anyway.


    -- Posted by gentle ben on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 3:23 PM
  • "These Patriots knew they couldn't be free while they remained colonies of the British Empire" -

    and yet, today, we, the former colony of a massive empire, commit the SAME egregious practice of colonization, and repress THEM in the same ways... altho I think that economic colonialism is far more 'effective' when backed by the largest military protection force in the world... in the absence of other conscious models, the oppressed WILL become the oppressor.

    Wonder if the plantationists planned it that way?

    -- Posted by NDII on Tue, Jul 2, 2013, at 10:06 PM
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