Speak Out: Oct. 8 to Nov. 15, 2013

Tuesday, October 8, 2013

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  • she's a very touch gatekeeper it looks like, news. lol.

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 3:32 PM
  • *touchy*

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 3:32 PM
  • Not all jokesters are annoying.

    Some are dead.

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 3:49 PM
  • Knock, knock.

    Who's there.


    Boo who?

    Don't cry about it, it's only a joke.

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:06 PM
  • What do you call someone who keeps talking when people are no longer interested?


    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:07 PM
  • Boom *tish*

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:08 PM
  • Oh come on, you know that was funny hehehehe.

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:10 PM
  • Sounds like a pretty sad life, but I think I get what they were saying about touchy ;)

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:14 PM
  • i mean touchy because he/she/cosa's post were deleted. they made some valid points and i don't think that just because the staff disagreed with them they should have been deleted. maybe the truth hurts?

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 4:31 PM
    Response by Rachel Knight/Editor:
    The posts were deleted because I received several outside complaints from others who viewed the posts. Keep in mind, a lot of people read these walls.
  • your NOSE

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 5:48 PM
  • I got...

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 5:48 PM
  • Lookie there,

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 5:49 PM
  • News,

    You're starting to sound like DO with your OMG bashing. Cool down, mate.

    Remember, this side is about things other than politics, religon, and hysteria.

    And yes, we're pleased to have you tell us how good life is in Oz, and some might even give you three cheers for your financial independence. :)

    -- Posted by Slater on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:06 PM
  • Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans. --John Lennon

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 7:42 PM
  • Shane aged 23. 'My Sheila's an angel'.

    Bruce aged 59. 'Your lucky mate, mine is still alive'.

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 7:43 PM
  • An Englishman wanted to become an Irishman, so he visited a doctor to find out how to go about this. "Well" said the doctor, "this is a very delicate operation and there is a lot that can go wrong. I will have to remove half your brain". "That's OK" said the Englishman. "I've always wanted to be Irish and I'm prepared to take the risk".

    The operation went ahead but the Englishman woke to find a look of horror on the face of the doctor. "I'm so terribly sorry!!" the doctor said. "Instead of removing half the brain, I've taken the whole brain out".

    The patient replied, "No worries, mate!!"

    -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 8:25 PM
  • -- Posted by OMG! on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 9:06 PM
  • Start 7:28 p.m.

    Score: News Across 12 OMG 4

    In an early sprint News Across has jumped in front. Will OMG be able to close ground, or is OMG lame?

    The smart money thinks that OMG will make a mid morning dash to overtake News Across during his down hours. Ahh yes, the old tortoise and the hare strategem. ;)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 11:00 PM
  • at the risk of this comment being deleted if you seem to question the staff at the democrat, i have a question.

    as a paying subscriber i would like to know why last week there wasn't an online edition published one day? someone even asked the question and was never given a reply. don't you think as paying readers that we at least deserve an explanation? i think we do. i find it hard to believe that there was no online news to put online when there was a printed version that day? care to explain to someone who pays?

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 1:20 AM
    Response by Rachel Knight/Editor:
    If you are referencing Sept. 26, the stories may not have been posted online immediately due to the fact that we had to compile the paper for printing and also cover eight events throughout the day with a staff of two, as well as a medical appointment scheduled in there. They were posted as soon as possible.

    The online reader (E-edition) is loaded every day after our paper is completed.

  • "may not have been posted online immediately" LOL it was late the next afternoon before anything changed. as someone who is retired from over 35 years in business let give you some advice. paying customers don't want excuses, they want the product they paid for.

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 1:37 PM
  • I posted a comment that read something to the effect of there really was no news to publish? My comment was posted because I subscribe to the MDN website to read the news but when you don't post it I feel like I am getting ripped off. I won't renew my electronic subscription just like I didn't renew my print subscription. This paper is going down the tubes.

    -- Posted by momaster on Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 6:15 PM
  • momaster, I also have felt like I'm not getting my money's worth in the electronic addition the last few months. I, too, am considering ending my subscription. It is disappointing.

    -- Posted by born-n-raised on Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 8:42 AM
  • I have taken the MDN for over 50 years and I too

    agree that it is slipping. Something is missing.

    E---, E--- where are you?

    -- Posted by Cat Lover on Thu, Oct 10, 2013, at 2:42 PM
  • A bunch of sports stories and two, count them, two news stories tonight. MDN editor I want my money back.

    -- Posted by momaster on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 4:37 PM
  • The Democrat-News is a good newspaper. Its web presence has been and still is better than most in its size category. It serves the community with both subscription and limited non-subscriber access. It serves advertisers by giving even non-subscribers access to classifieds and other advertising including its posterboard feature.

    Compare with other newspaper, daily and weekly, that serve outstate towns in Missouri and other states. I read a lot of them.

    Sometimes in the past 50 years, the Democrat had regressive editors and strangely opinionated local editorial writers. Sometimes they ignored big local news if it occurred over a weekend. Take for a long past example the chapel fire at Missouri Valley College when the paper failed to get a reporter or photographer to the weekend scene. Sometimes area tornadoes were likewise inconvenient to past staff coverage. With access to 50 years of microfilm editions, you can check out what I say to compare to memory.

    What some readership has apparently not noticed is that as Eric Crump grew into the job, he became an unusually good editor. Often people do not appreciate what they've got 'til its gone. This is still a good newspaper.

    -- Posted by former editor on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 4:51 PM
  • Doesn't change my opinion.

    -- Posted by momaster on Fri, Oct 11, 2013, at 7:10 PM
  • i'm not saying the MDN is a bad paper and i don't think others are either. what i'm saying is that just like any other business, people need to feel like they are getting their money's worth when they pay for your product. lately, i think a lot of us feel that is not happening.

    today, as momaster said, two stories, and this has been the norm, not the exception lately. plus, on most weekends nothing new appears until monday. the print edition is 50% non-local wire stories most days and i can get that anywhere for free. we want local stories. news is a 24/7 business in today's world and if something happened on a weekend it got covered in the past, not so much now. if you don't cover it people will go to other sources (kmzu/kmmo) and you will eventually go out of business.

    if they are short-staffed, they need to get people hired. if the problem is that important people live out of town and are not connected with what's going on in marshall after they go home, then somebody needs to correct that. if you don't give people what they pay for, they will leave.

    like it or not, you either keep up or get lost in today's fast moving online world. i don't think any of us would like to lose a hometown newspaper.

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 12:14 AM
  • Staffing at newspapers large and small has suffered cuts. Hiring more folks will not happen in the employment scene of modern America. The trend is to some how get more production from less people. It is not always possible to meet that goal.

    Enjoy the crinkle of the newspaper in your hands as you have your coffee. It all will be gone soon enough. Then the lament will be there are no print newspapers!

    In my opinion Eric was a rare bird, and it is not fair to compare Rachel to him, especially when she is new to the job. Give her time to grow into the job. Seamless change is a rarity. Resistance to change is a commonality.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 12:54 AM
  • that's just it, Oklahoma...I don't think small newspapers have that much time unfortunately.

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 1:00 AM
  • hunterfisher, you described exactly what I am feeling. I am not getting what I pay for. When MDN made the decision to limit how many free articles readers could see per month, I understood it was a necessary financial decision, and I purchased a web subscription. What I am discovering, is that so few new articles are being included in the web edition, that I don't really need a subscription, as it is unlikely that I will use up what would be freely allowed per month. This was not always the case. I have been patient during the editorial transition, but clearly it is time to speak up. I am not disagreeing that MDN is a good newspaper. I am complaining that I am not being shown any new material. As hunterfisher pointed out, there are only TWO new news articles provided in yesterdays edition. It is clear that I am not the only subscriber who is unhappy, so my hope is that MDN will take notice and do something about it.

    -- Posted by born-n-raised on Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 9:33 AM
  • To further clarify, I understand that my subscription is small change in the financial scheme of the MDN. They do take in most of their revenue from advertising which is not cheap. But that sort of supports my concern, why then do we have to pay to read it online when they aren't putting the news stories online? I feel as I am getting no return for my money THAT IS THE ISSUE.If you want to really know what is going on go to the KMMO website and click on news or sports. You can read the news there and even listen to the broadcasts and its all free. If they can do it why can't MDN?

    -- Posted by momaster on Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM
  • News did you see this photo. http://www.marshallnews.com/story/2011665.html

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Oct 13, 2013, at 7:39 PM
  • Does anyone know if trash pickup is delayed one day? Didn't find anything on the MMU website.

    -- Posted by momaster on Mon, Oct 14, 2013, at 6:05 PM
  • Has Carlos left the paper? Has Jesse replaced him?

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Oct 14, 2013, at 11:44 PM
    Response by Kelsey Alumbaugh:
    Yes. Carlos' last day was Aug. 22. Jesse started on Friday. We also have a new ag reporter at the MDN, Kelly Melies.
  • momaster, MMU doesn't handle the trash, they only collect the money for the City on your utility bill. Municipal Services actually does the trash. I doubt it's posted there either, but you might check the City of Marshall's website.

    -- Posted by Philemon on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 6:00 AM
  • With the nice weather I've been going to the park quite a bit the last couple of weeks. It looked really good. The waist high grass was finally mowed. Too bad this wasn't done before we had so many guests from out of town for the Battle of Marshall. I had three visitors ask me personally why it looked so bad compared to when they had been here before. At least it looked good for the competition out at the skate park.

    -- Posted by Philemon on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 6:07 AM
  • Thanks Kelsey.

    Good to see you here Philemon.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 11:04 AM
  • To those who have expressed appreciation for the work I did as MDN editor, thank you! I miss the MDN and Marshall and think of you all often.

    But I would like to second something Former Editor said in response to folks who are a bit disgruntled with the frequency of news posted online. It does take time to grow into the editor's job. Did for me!

    I still remember with gritted teeth the first day I was editor. I missed deadline by an hour and 15 minutes! I knew I would get better at meeting deadline, and I did. Eventually. It was still very frustrating every time the paper was late. It still caused the carriers to be late getting papers to our customers. That experience made me focus on working more efficiently (never my strong suit!).

    I also think it's healthy for readers to express their dissatisfaction with the paper. Editors depend upon reader feedback. It's how we identify problems and find ways to address them.

    I would encourage everyone to do so regularly. Please keep in mind that the MDN staff has undergone some big changes and faced some mighty big challenges this summer and fall. With your help, they will meet those challenges and keep the paper's news coverage improving.

    Thanks to you all for caring enough to speak out. Thanks to Rachel and Kelsey for keeping the old ship sailing through rough seas. Thanks to Jesse and Kelly for joining the staff. You'll have a great time. It's a terrific place to work, and you're providing an important service to the community!


    -- Posted by ewcrump on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 11:52 AM
  • So Move!!!

    -- Posted by CWilli on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 11:59 AM
  • News I think considering CWilli's usual posture on these blogs he may have intended applauding Eric's statement.

    That is, loose parliamentary procedure as in "so move" the resolution.

    Is that right CWilli? :)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 9:19 PM
  • Again, I believe you are mistaken News. CWilli is an African American heavily involved in the local NAACP. On these blogs he defends, and offers avenues of explanation concerning the Affordable Care Act. At this point I am nearly certain you have him confused with someone else. :)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 10:08 PM
  • Further, see CWilli's comment under this report from Congressman Cleaver. http://www.marshallnews.com/blogs/cleaver/entry/53901/#Comments

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 10:24 PM
  • News my good friend it appears I have been presented with the rare opportunity to at the same time defend a friend in one way, and another friend in another way. I would have been remiss to not have embraced such opportunity. ;)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 10:57 PM
  • News you might wanna review this; particularly comments from past years. http://www.marshallnews.com/scripts/search/simple.php?query=CWilli&s=comments

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 11:11 PM
  • And yes, you are right my friend. I am done with this issue. I have made available information that needed to be, and can leave it to two folks whom I believe to be good people to handle going further.

    Oh yeh, and it wasn't butting in by me, though some will think it and say so; it was caring for good people which happens to be a compulsion of mine. :)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 15, 2013, at 11:21 PM
  • I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack for this but it's a problem that's really bothering me about Marshall. Has anyone noticed or does anyone feel that Marshall Police Department is a little over the top? It's starting to seem like it's a crime to be out on the town after a certain hour. I have seen and heard stories of the police harassing and following persons out after a certain hour who have done nothing wrong. I kind of feel like Marshall is turning into a police state. I have a great respect for law enforcement and I appreciate everything MPD does for the community but I feel that there is a fine line between being safe and being free. It seems that MPD is starting to cross this line and it's very unsettling.

    -- Posted by Free-soul on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 12:55 AM
  • FreeSoul,

    It's simple.....Don't break the law, and you have nothing to worry about. Not from local cops in a rat hole town like Marshall, anyway

    -- Posted by Armour-of-God on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 8:32 AM
  • News that is by far the best post that has ever been posted in this space!

    -- Posted by Gal66 on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 8:51 AM
  • Armour-of-God,

    I wish I could say it was that simple. Sometimes I work overnight and come home during lunch. I will be making my way home only to find a police car two blocks back speeding up to my bumper following me all the way home. I know they are probably just calling in my numbers to check and see if everything pans out. It doesn't help things when I get back into my car when lunch is over and I pass a different police car and they make a U turn and end up following me back to work. The whole thing just rattles a person. I don't feel safe I feel violated and watched. We all know that there are those out late that are doing illegal activities but the vast majority of the people out late are night owls or are working.

    news across, I thank you for those links I'll be sure to read them. I hope anyone who feels the same way as me utilizes the information within these links also.

    -- Posted by Free-soul on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 12:19 PM
  • It was just a misunderstanding, and it's all sorted now, but I just wanted to add that CWilli and I are good friends, and I believe his comment was intended to be one of support for my comment. Thanks to OKR and news across for getting things straightened out.

    -- Posted by ewcrump on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 2:40 PM
  • Let's hope that Marshall city council members are reading the critiques of the perceived failure to some in the police department to operate in respectful "protect and serve" mode. I have heard stories from others and had just enough personal experience to believe things should be better.

    The information from News Across is good. Armour-of-God's opinion that those who follow the law have nothing to worry about is naive. Do we have assurance that all policemen are honest, do not use badge and gun to bully people, never have buddies who deal in drugs, would never plant evidence or embellish a police report, etc.?

    Policemen with years of experience have left the department in recent years. In addition, Marshall has paid out settlement money to several officers they severed from their jobs. Much remains untold. Personally, I spend less time in Marshall because of being aware of some police problems, even to the point of choosing to shop elsewhere if I have no other reason to visit Marshall. To avoid traffic stops, always use turn signal, wear shoulder harness, fully stop at stop signs, make sure your lights work including the license plate light. The requirement for lighted license plates predates reflective plates, but the law provides a handy reason for police to stop you to see who is occupying a vehicle.

    -- Posted by former editor on Wed, Oct 16, 2013, at 3:10 PM
  • When The Circus Came To Town

    The elephants broke their chains rampaging down main street,

    trampling all the little folk beneath their careless feet.

    Then the clowns reversed their frowns as the wounds began to fester,

    and I thought it is this circus that we somehow must sequester.

    The circus will come again just a year from this November.

    Like elephants, not clowns, I hope we then remember.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Thu, Oct 17, 2013, at 1:25 PM
  • Paying your share and responsibility. There is a novel idea that at least 50% of those who voted the current POTUS into office have no idea about. Now, that being said, I am affiliated with neither party, and hope someday we can do away with the party system entirely. Though thats not very likley

    -- Posted by Armour-of-God on Fri, Oct 18, 2013, at 9:07 AM
  • AoG said, referring to 'paying your share and personal responsibility: "at least 50% of those who voted the current POTUS into office have no idea about"... which was who? the WWII retirees, the out of work because their jobs were sent to China or a US for-profit prison??? who are you referring to?

    -- Posted by NDII on Fri, Oct 18, 2013, at 7:44 PM
  • And your point is Little Peter? More specifically what is it that CWilli said that drew your comment?

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sat, Oct 19, 2013, at 8:29 PM
  • This is something of which folks should be aware. It is a sad story, and there isn't much that can be done about it.

    "The Ocean Is Broken" http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Oct 21, 2013, at 1:36 AM
  • Yep, the Komen Foundation is a sham for all intents and purposes. My policy has always been to contribute directly to an organization, and if it employs a third party to raise money, skip it and go to the next one.

    Thinking about Enron and others like it, the Komen Foundation exists much for the same reason - created not so much out of need but more out of greed.

    -- Posted by Slater on Mon, Oct 21, 2013, at 12:10 PM
  • Just a word of note....the Pink Out T-shirts and other pink out items sold at the Fitzgibbon Auxiliary Gift Shop and at Walmart directly benefit the Fitzgibbon Community Cancer Center. None of the proceeds go out of the area.

    -- Posted by rdeford on Mon, Oct 21, 2013, at 1:33 PM
  • News, apparently you missed the point. No one is saying that it's a bad idea to contribute money in support of cancer research.

    Instead of 15 cents of your dollar going to fund research, why not give through the cancer website where the money is sure to do the most good?

    -- Posted by Slater on Mon, Oct 21, 2013, at 10:18 PM
  • Maybe you need to re-read the Reuters article. Komen gives 15% to research, but the rest goes to other worthy purposes such as education and help to cancer sufferers. Their amount for administration and fundraising is considered within reasonable limits for a charitable organization. They also pay their top administrator considerably less than some other cancer charities pay theirs. And the dollar figure that Komen gives for research continually climbs. So not sure why people seem to be bashing Komen. It is a worthwhile charity, but if you don't want to donate to them, feel free to donate elsewhere.

    -- Posted by cmasretire on Tue, Oct 22, 2013, at 2:28 PM
  • Cmasretire, your bold assertions of "administrative and fund raising costs within reasonable limits," and "salaries below other charities" need substantiating, as News would require, and your remark about Komen giving more dollars to research each year implies only that it takes in more money each year.

    As to your suggestion that we "feel free to donate to another organization," that point was already made.

    We all spend our money the way we want to spend it, and if you choose to give yours to Komen, well, it's your money. News wishes something pink for the coming spring, and it's his money to spend as he sees fit.

    The point of this exercise seemed to me that money going to fund research leading to better treatment or a cure for breast cancer would be better utilized for that specific purpose if given directly to the ones doing the work. That seemed to be the point made by Little Peter.

    The American Cancer Society has offered ancillary services for more than 100 years, and I'm guessing they're filling that role very well. What niche does Komen occupy that isn't already covered by the ACS?

    -- Posted by Slater on Tue, Oct 22, 2013, at 9:44 PM
  • Like I said Slater, you need to reread the article rather than just slamming Komen for no good reason. Of course, everyone can give to whomever they choose. Komen as well as other charities are rated as to how much they spend on administration, fund raising, etc. and Komen is rated rather well on those counts. Since most people are not able to donate money directly to researchers, it generally goes thru some fund raising group. The ACS certainly helps people, but doesn't have unlimited funds to help everyone, so any group that does so should be appreciated, not be denigrated by yourself for doing so.

    I guess I have to wonder if you have some personal grievance against Komen. All I was pointing out in my original post was that the Reuters article contained good things to say about Komen and perhaps someone hadn't read all the way thru it.

    As for 'substantiation', re-read the Reuters article. To quote the article, Komen research funding "dwarfs the $17 million awarded by ACS for breast cancer research in 2010. In percentage terms, ACS spent 16 percent of donations on all cancer research, largely because much of its focus is "patient support," which includes providing transportation and housing for people undergoing treatment for cancer. It reported much higher fund-raising and administration costs than Komen, accounting for 30 percent of donations.

    The Breast Cancer Research Foundation reported spending 92 percent of what it raised on research; the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, 56 percent."

    In other words, each organization spends it's funding differently, and if you prefer one over the other, that is fine, but no need to cast stones.

    -- Posted by cmasretire on Tue, Oct 22, 2013, at 10:29 PM
  • lol - News, I have to laugh, mate. I can see you backing away with a look of mild concern as the sales person insists that you try on the lovely pink pastel Armani sports jacket and you saying, "No! Thanks, but pink is not my color!"

    Me either. The last pink item for me was a pink dress shirt that coordinated with a charcoal black suit, circa middle 1950's.

    -- Posted by Slater on Wed, Oct 23, 2013, at 1:47 PM
  • News

    I wear PINK every Friday. Been doing since 1984.

    In reverence to Electric Mike (Head electrician on Sears retrofit (remodels)).

    Everywhere I have labored since then, I instituted wear PINK on Friday. It catches on quick.

    -- Posted by CWilli on Wed, Oct 23, 2013, at 2:23 PM
  • No, Cmasretire, I have no personal grievance against Komen. Change the name to American Cancer Society or another non-profit of similar interest and the result is still the same. I've been around enough non-profits in my lifetime to know that not all are created equal.

    The problem I see with Komen is its scope. If it truly wants to be a meaningful supporter of breast cancer research, then do it and skip the window dressing. Unless you just like showing off your pink trinkets, your money is being largely wasted, and I say that because Komen bills itself as being dedicated to finding the cure. Is it dedicated to finding the cure, or is it dedicated to enlightening the world to the insidious nature of the disease, of which we're all already well aware.

    And your contention that most donors can't give directly to organizations is pure baloney. Get on the phone with a few of the focused research groups and discover just how pleased they'll be to receive your contribution.

    Finally, reading that Reuters article is like going online and reading product reviews posted by "purchasers."

    -- Posted by Slater on Wed, Oct 23, 2013, at 2:50 PM
  • CWilli,

    We may joke about the pink subject, but we all know just how deadly serious it is.

    I've participated in a couple of the Komen Race for the Cure events here in San Antonio, and I proudly wore my pink doodad.

    -- Posted by Slater on Wed, Oct 23, 2013, at 3:01 PM
  • Breast cancer awareness should be more than pink. How about pink AND blue?

    The emphasis on pink and women may fool men into believing only women can have this disease. If men are not suspicious of the lump in the chest, they may not get it checked in time. Yes, breast cancer affects women at a much higher rate than men. However, men need to be aware that simply being male does not offer full protection. Pink AND blue. Opinion from male breast cancer survivor shown in following link:


    -- Posted by former editor on Wed, Oct 23, 2013, at 4:22 PM
  • Why isn't there any information about the Trick or Treating on the Square tonight?!?! It's not even listed on the calendar of events on the MDN site. I lost count of how many people have asked me when it is, and how many have inquired on Facebook.

    This event has become a huge part of the community, and is a wonderful opportunity for both the youth and area businesses. It'd be nice if there were some acknowledgement.

    -- Posted by k_m on Thu, Oct 24, 2013, at 1:51 PM
  • If you haven't had a chance to visit the remembrance of soldiers lost since nine-eleven from Missouri, there is a wonderful tribute on display in the MHS breeze way. Friday from 7 pm until 9 pm will be your last opportunity. God Bless these young men and women.

    -- Posted by Pasta on Thu, Oct 24, 2013, at 6:44 PM
  • Rachel thank you for finally bringing the editorials to the online subscribers. It was promised as an inducement some time ago when we were asked to purchase an online subscription to continue full access.

    I thought Mr. Harlow's editorial addressed a subject of real importance. Shame on Missouri for being the only state in the nation that does not track narcotic prescriptions.

    Lots of luck in getting the Republican legislature to address the issue. If they do not they are abetting criminal activity. Is there not a law against abetting criminal activity? I said shame on Missouri; more specifically shame on the legislature.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Fri, Oct 25, 2013, at 9:39 PM
  • OK, is this the weekend we turn back our clocks?

    -- Posted by momaster on Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 1:30 PM
  • "Saturday, October 26, 2013

    Marshall Democrat-News

    Friday, Oct. 25


    Boonville 28, at Marshall 27

    Kirksville 34, at Fulton 24

    at Moberly 41, Fulton 14 "


    at Wellington-Napoleon 34, Sweet Springs "

    Tough loss for the Owls, though not as tough as poor Fulton's lot. Can you imagine being beaten by Kirksville at home and then hopping on a bus to Moberly where they got thrashed the same date. Then there is poor Sweet Springs; who knows what happened to them. ;)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 10:56 PM
  • Well OR, if you head over to www.kmmo.com you will see the correct scores and its FREE!A point I made a week or so ago.

    -- Posted by momaster on Sun, Oct 27, 2013, at 4:53 PM
  • Thanks Momaster. I checked there as you suggested.

    I do have to say though that in my opinion comparing local radio to a local newspaper is something like comparing apples to oranges. Both are tasty and good for you, with each you need to spit out the occasional seed, though some do choose to swallow them whole. ;)

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Oct 28, 2013, at 4:11 PM
  • R.I.P. Congressman Ike Skelton

    -- Posted by modemocrat on Mon, Oct 28, 2013, at 8:50 PM
  • We have missed you Ike R.I.P.

    You have done so much for so many

    -- Posted by carmella214 on Mon, Oct 28, 2013, at 10:41 PM
  • Smart Dog,

    If i'm not mistaken it seems the MPD are using the no refusal sobriety checkpoint as a drug checkpoint also. How else can you explain the drug dog's presence? Drug Checkpoints are illegal and have been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. Thanks to News across, I have found flexyourrights.org The following comes from flexyourrights.org

    Drug Checkpoints (it's a trap!)

    The Supreme Court has ruled that random checkpoints for the purpose of finding illegal drugs are unconstitutional. However, police sometimes put up signs warning drivers of up-coming drug checkpoints and instead pull over people who make illegal u-turns or discard contraband out the window. If you see a sign saying "Drug Checkpoint Ahead", just keep driving and don't panic. If there's a rest area following the sign, DO NOT pull into it. If you do, you'll find yourself surrounded by drug-sniffing dogs.

    Police departments, especially in the Mid-west, have been pushing their luck with this tactic, so if you encounter anything resembling an actual drug checkpoint, please contact that state's ACLU Chapter. Similarly, if you're arrested as a result of a real or fake "drug checkpoint", you must contact an attorney to explore your legal options.

    -- Posted by Free-soul on Tue, Oct 29, 2013, at 1:50 PM
  • November 8th will be the sixth anniversary of "Speak Out". It might be fun to celebrate that with reminiscing by some of the early posters; a sort of virtual homecoming.

    Are you still out there reading? What do you most fondly recall from "Speak Out"? What former poster did you most enjoy? What subject? What, if any, subject that was discussed had the most impact on the community?

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Thu, Oct 31, 2013, at 11:52 AM
  • J. J. Gates, by a mile.

    -- Posted by Interested Too on Thu, Oct 31, 2013, at 7:01 PM
  • John Q, in a landslide

    -- Posted by Slater on Thu, Oct 31, 2013, at 7:14 PM
  • Both worthy nominees guys. I would be remiss if I did not mention Smokin' Cheetah. He could really spin a story.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Thu, Oct 31, 2013, at 7:42 PM
  • Last night My mother got a phone call. A man with a Middle eastern accent said his name was, I Think Micheal Williams. He said he worked for Microsoft and he was contacting us because of some Errors our computer was creating. I stopped him and told him that Our conversation was over and that I was contacting our local Police department to verify the legitimacy of the call and if it was legit then I would be happy to help him. He became hostile calling me names and such, I hung up. Just wanted to let the community know that this is going around.

    -- Posted by Selmac8 on Fri, Nov 1, 2013, at 6:03 AM
  • I received a call about my computer tues. afternoon as Selmars mother did, when I ask for the name the second time, the man was very rude, I just said this is a scam I'll contact my sheriffs office and before I could say anything else, I was disconnected, I knew nothing was wrong with my computer.

    -- Posted by buttons on Fri, Nov 1, 2013, at 8:44 AM
  • Sounds like someone on a phishing expedition. Microsoft does not call people who use its stuff.

    Ever vigilant, gang! :)

    -- Posted by Slater on Fri, Nov 1, 2013, at 9:38 AM
  • Just received another call about my computer, this is call number 2, when I told the caller I had been called about 3 days ago and my local sheriffs office was handling all the call and to call them, needless to say the call was disconnected. One more call I am playing dumb, and try to get names, phone numbers (which will be bogus ) any info I can get and calling the BBB and sheriffs office.

    -- Posted by buttons on Sat, Nov 2, 2013, at 10:24 AM
  • Read with interest pros and cons of MDN, it is a good paper, altho it does not have news like before. I stopped my subscription because the print got smaller and smaller and I could not see it without magnifying glass, I tried to read it on line, only seven items a month then no more news for a month,

    . Tried to subscribe on line, wouldn't let me do that, so I read what I can then go to KMMO.com and get rest of news. At least it is free and I can read it.

    I understand the computer version is not worth the money it cost,up-to- date news is not ptinted every day, What a lost for Marshall, do so enjoy SPEAK-OUT.

    -- Posted by buttons on Sat, Nov 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM
  • So, is anyone planning to adjust her/his clock this evening?

    I guess it's good that my computer will fix the time itself, because the clocks in the house all show a different time (on purpose), except for the microwave clock and my travel alarm. :)

    It's my way of rebelling against a legacy of Richard Nixon.

    -- Posted by Slater on Sat, Nov 2, 2013, at 3:48 PM
  • Not quite sure what the Nixon legacy is that you refer to Slater but Daylight Savings Time has been around since its official adoption in 1918.

    Recently heard a news article that said there is some modern value to continuing this practice having to do with our internal clocks....if we didn't use it there would be parts of the country where people would go to work and come home from work in the dark at certain points of the year. Evidently that is bad for us!

    -- Posted by momaster on Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 7:22 AM
  • Daylight saving time was adopted during WWI but after the war was over was not standard throughout the USA. It was reestablished during WWII. Again, after the war, it was a muddle with some states continuing while others didn't; no uniform start and stop dates.

    In the 1960s the US government standardized the beginning and the end dates. During the Arab Oil Embargo in the Nixon years, it was expanded to last longer and was adopted by more nations around the world.

    -- Posted by inthemiddle on Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 9:17 PM
  • Sometimes when things get slow on these blogs I go back and re-read past months. I think of them as chapters in a book, perhaps better said, a tome.

    I recently returned to April 1st to May 1st 2010. It is chock full of observations on Marshall in the 1940s, and 1950s. It is my opinion that it is a historic chapter. It also is one in which there is dissension (what else is new) that led to the establishment of the political blog at that time.

    After rereading I came away thinking that I may have been a friend of "Red Dog" and acquainted with "rr3' during our youth. I probably should have been nicer to rr3 during our discussions on these blogs, just as I would have been if we were parked on the square shooting the bull on those small town Saturday nights long ago.

    Anyway have a go at it if you have nothing better to do for a while. Here is the link to that chapter. http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1622775.html

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Nov 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM
  • One other observation from my re-read is that the absence of NanaDot, and Smokin' Cheetah from that chapter due to their choice to have their comments deleted from these blogs is as if pages were torn from the chapter. There are replies to their comments that left me wondering what they had said, and a sense of sorrow that the remarks of such interesting writers are missing.

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Nov 5, 2013, at 2:07 PM
  • What about speed bumps on N. Lyon instead of 4-way stop and other problem areas for that matter??

    -- Posted by DAgates on Tue, Nov 5, 2013, at 2:15 PM
  • So the Phillips 66 will be a Casey's stated to open in March of next year it will be a 24 hour one and will have pizza there. From what I heard they do not plan to close the other one's.

    -- Posted by Jason1969 on Sun, Nov 10, 2013, at 10:26 AM
  • I see the last (Primary) Lead smelting plant in the US will be closing the doors come December.

    Herculaneum, Mo.

    Little info here....

    Ira Rennert owns the plant via Renco Group...he also owns AM General, the people that manufacture ~Hummers~ for the Military.

    You figure it out.


    -- Posted by EiEiO on Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 2:21 AM
  • Smart Dog - trickle down economics cannot work with such a tiny fraction of people at the top holding the majority of the money. They are too few to spread the wealth as consumers. If we had a very much larger group, including a well to do upper middle class, it can work. A really large group of well-to-do consumers is in the past. The Federal Reserve (through QE, TALF, etc.) has funneled money to the tiny elite minority and ignored Main Street and the rest of us.

    On another subject (dogs, cats, etc.): How many people know veterinary bills will go up because of Obamacare? I learned that yesterday when taking a relative's very ill cat for diagnostics. The vet pointed out that he will have to pass through the tax on medical devices, have to increase fees when he buys newer equipment in order to make the same amount for his services. This means that pet and livestock owners will pay a vet for Obamacare tax as a pass through. Obama didn't even mention this one. But we had to pass the bill to find out what was in it according to Pelosi.

    -- Posted by former editor on Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 11:09 AM
  • I have not noticed any specific mention of, nor homage paid to the one million members of our armed services who have been treated by the VA for injuries sustained in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    I doubt that many of us even knew that there are so many of them. We as a nation chose to honor veterans at this time. I think it fitting that we recognize the magnitude of the sacrifice of so many so recently. http://www.ibtimes.com/va-stops-releasing-data-injured-vets-total-reaches-grim-m...

    -- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Nov 12, 2013, at 9:13 PM
  • one new story today?! that's it?!

    -- Posted by hunterfisher on Thu, Nov 14, 2013, at 11:03 PM
  • I am wondering, why does the Democrat News rarely, if ever do any investigative reports on local civic leaders? There are a couple with some let's say, "questionalbe" practices, yet they are often held up as examples of virtue due to what the publilc at large knows about them.

    -- Posted by Armour-of-God on Fri, Nov 15, 2013, at 9:02 AM
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