Speak Out [February 1 to March 31, 2012]

Really hope people pay attention to Eric's story on AG Koster's mortgage settlement deal with the Too Big To Fail banks. The big banks got bailed out by the rest of us and their big shots were rewarded with huge bonuses for leading us into the Great Recession.

"Basically, (the banks) just haven't been treating consumers very well" is the quote from the AG representative in Marshall Friday. With Washington establishment failure to protect the little guy, Koster at least did something. William K. Black (UMKC), who prosecuted S&L frauds and speaks nationally on financial white collar crime, gives Koster a thumbs up for trying.

I'll have to say you are a good man Eric. I don't think I would be as cool and collected if I had the bully pulpit. You know that some you can never satisfy and they have the right to voice that. We all make mistakes, and I love this speak out column. Keep up the good work.

with all due respect eric, a few lines in a story about sweet springs is not a story about the barton case. lol.

lol bellyjeans. good point.

i for one love the lively discussion on local topics. it beats what's usually discussed on speak out which is sports scores, youtube videos, how big someone's tomatoes are this year and what's the weather like.

keep up the good work posters!

if you don't like what's being posted or think it has been beat to death, skip over it. that's what i do.

Maybe I am one of the people the so-called policy has affected. Or I could be in the future. I am just trying to stand for what I believe to be fair and equal treatment of the citizens of our little town.

I understand that, but shouldn't the people it affects complain, rather than people not affected?

1 story ran, 1 didn't. The question was asked "why", the answer was given repeatedly.

What's left to discuss?

True, the editor doesn't make the policies on his own, but the people on this blog frequently hold him responsible for those decisions.

SO, different editor means a likely different approach and different opinion on which/what stories are newsworthy, despite the fact that the publisher remained the same.

Koeller77,

I don't believe anyone ever said the editor makes the policies. And, Eric himself said that he and his boss discuss whether or not a story makes the paper.

"Owls 3-0 for first time in 10 years"

http://www.marshallnews.com/story/183067...

Great game Owls!

I sure wish I could have been there to see that game.

ChickenPotpie, the slogan was not fear mongering, it referenced the political atmosphere around the time that Missouri became a state. You may remember reading about the "States Rights' issues vs Federal policies and slavery that lead to the Civil War.

Big E,

Yup, folks that make their living in the public eye are definitely fair game.

"Down Home Shakedown"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhyjFfZTG...

The "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" fear-mongering motto, reminds me of a quote by Ayn Rand.

"It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master."

Similar to the "your either with us, or against us" statement, by the widely supported, posterboy for the mentally challenged.

Saturday, 11AM, Marshall High School Baseball Field.

Come out and watch the Owls take on Conference foe Hannibal. Pack the stands, bring a lawn chair, come support your Owls!!!!!!

I posted this on one of the political blogs.

When a person is elected to public office they have to take an oath. They are all pretty much the same with a few words added or in a different order for some states.

You see all kinds of statements on state flags to state seals. I think we need to hold all elected officials accountable just to what is on the Missouri State Seal. In the middle of the seal is the state slogan. You will see two bears standing with the words "United We Stand Divided We Fall". I think that sould also apply to everyone who is elected to national office anywhere in this country. At the bottom of the state seal their is a phrase written in Latin that is our state motto; it says "Salus Populi Suprema Lex Esto".

Translated it says "The Welfare Of The People Shall Be The Supreme Law.

It doesn't appear that a lot of the elected people in Washington and Jefferson City subscribe to this thought.

Lol...Eric...lol.

Its been awhile since one of my comments mysteriously disappeared, I guess I was due for one...lol.

Great job MPD!!!

Preemptive blogging, Eric?

Nomad,

I agree, but I am sure MDN's response to that would be that she was actually charged with a crime. Personally I don't understand why the paper publishes names of people charged with crimes either. I really don't care because those crimes don't affect me in any way. Just gives this town something else to gossip about.

What I have learned... you have to have a business license to get away with keeping the better of 7,000 & not be charged with a felony in Saline County. & I guess~ I wouldn't be concidered a "private citizen" if I get caught hiding, let's say, my mother's money. You can bet my name is mud & it would be published right there on the front page of the MDN.

Just ask the gal from the heating & cooling company. That was public record & wrote about a couple of times. I guess she wasn't concidered a "private citizin" either.

HEY BASEBALL FANS!

Game Today, Tuesday, 5:00pm v. Booneville at MHS Field!

Thursday v. Grain Valley, 4:30pm, MHS!

GO OWLS!

If anyone else had stolen that money they would have been charged. Period. Once again, it comes down to who you are and who you know in this town.

Actually I totally agree with you, yes America is grand, and yes we need to speak up when we see wrong. That is why I posted. You have every right to speak up and say what is on your mind, my objection is, that we decide when we are truly standing up for what is right and when we have went to far. I know both parties that were wronged, and I believe they spoke up and asked for justice, I believe he is being made to also pay those people back, now we must all decide is this,after we have spoke our mind, about how we feel, when do we be adults and let it go, and let justice work or not work. You and I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, we will never know the whole story behind all of it. Believe me I speak up. A very wise person once told me,speak up for what you believe in but always remember when it is time to stop so you don't look like a fool. It is wonderful we can speak out, but enough is enough. I think and also respect your opinion that you think a crime has been done. How many times does that have to be posted.If this had happened to you, I would totally understand, but it didnt.If those families involved speak up about THEIR feelings of injustice, then lets back them.I want to say again, I respect your feelings on this,what MY opinion is about this is lets not go over board on it.

Typical. Always trying to kick a guy when he's down. Probably due to your inability to compete. There's a term for individuals who display such behavior. Sociopaths.

With this type of mentality, along with the school district, is it really a wonder why businesses do not want to open up shop here? With that in mind, there's really no need for any further economic development studies.

"I am just making sure I take care of myself and what goes on in my life, and let others worry about themselves."

Some times we have a greater duty to society than that. Granted, each of us decide individually what such greater duties are. I am pretty sure that speaking against other's right to speak is not one of those greater duties. On the other hand, speaking out when it appears an unprosecuted crime may have occured probably is.

O. K.

Ok Reader: I think Owl Supporter is right. I think it's time to stop discussing the Barton issue altogether. I said much earlier that there are many other issues that need this much attention. If you have questions for the prosecutor, call him.

Apparently we are going to lynch poor Mr. Barton right here in the MDN Speak Out blog, eh?

Who needs judicial review when we have public executions like this to guide our civic endeavors?

I am in no way saying that I agree with what Mr. Barton has done. What I am unsure about is, why we as people think it is ok to remark about it. Yes what he did was wrong, and I believe he has been suspended for 2 years. For any of us to speculate to what should have happened,is wrong. You have to remember that he has children, and while I think what he did was wrong,it is not our place to judge or decide what should be published or not published. Again, I am not defending him, I am saying enough is enough. It is almost like we feed off of others failures. It is ok to post about it, ask a question, but to keep going on and on about this is not right. Yes he should have made better choices, yes what he did was wrong. Yes he is paying for it, with a 2 year suspension. That may not make people happy, I understand that. I wish we would all think for just one minute, if that was us, a family member, would you want to keep it going on and on in a paper. Before you ask, no I am not a family member. Just a concerned Marshall citizen.

I did read the entire complaint MissMarple, which is what prompted my questions. In most cases if you take money that is in entrusted to you by someone else, and you break the fiduciary trust by converting the entrustment to your own use it is a crime. Maybe not in this circumstance, hence the nature of my questions.

OKR,

Right now, as these words are being typed, there is an ex-lawyer out there somewhere that would like to see you tarred and feathered lol.

However, you pose a most interesting question.

It would be interesting to hear from the local authorities on that one. It certainly looks to me to be a crime to steal a client's money. In fact, he may even be the subject of an investigation right now.

SC,

Calm down mate.

Its just a topic of discussion.

This matter would only become an issue if the MDN or some other publication actually ran a story on a private person's private affairs which would then most likely become a tort suit not the least of which would include a libel charge. And it would be a suit the publication would have a tough time defending against because truth is not an allowable defense when it involves libeling or slandering of a private person.

That makes all the difference in the World mate, because in the end that kind of thing all boils down to money -- and lots of it -- in the form of punitive damages.

The MDN clearly made the best decision both ethically and legally.

BellyJeans

Oh were we discussing the public life of an elected public employee?

I don't think so.

Nice try, but no cigar mate.

Personally, I have no interest in reading about this former attorney's private affairs.

Being from Marshall and being so far from home (literally the other side of the World), what I look for in my hometown paper is news of public interest, not interesting news about a private citizen's personal life.

If I want to read about folks' personal lives (or alien visitors from space or the latest Big Foot sighting}, I would go read the "National Enquirer" or the infamous "Daily Mail."

Well put Red Dog. Big government don't pry enough we need more locals on the job.

Outsider that is funny I hadn't thought of that.

I was feeling guilty the other day about not doing enough to help the needy, so I've decided to organize a fundraiser to help Wal-Mart buy new wheels for their shopping carts. Apparently the high cost of having all their merchandise shipped over here from China has caused them to go to the cheaper multi-sided wheels instead of the more expensive round ones.

Thumbs up on the editor's allowing discussion on the Barton vs. Ehler news issue. I agree with Marple that the Ehler disbarment had more public record information behind it and was more serious than suspension, therefore justified more coverage. Eric is trying to do a good job here and is allowing more discussion than many people in his position would.

The policy is still an inconsistent policy no matter how you look at it and no matter how many times you try and defend it. The Ehler and the Barton case have enough similarities that if you printed one, you should print the other. It's not about trying to ruin anyone's life here, it's about having a consistent policy and sensible reporting. This is a newsworthy story to your readers, just as the Ehler story was at that time.

Your policy has holes in it Democrat-News...own up to it and make the changes you need to make unless it steps on too many toes. Which, I think is possibly the real underlying theme here. Ehler was not well known in the community and living elsewhere...Barton apparently has friends at the Democrat.

Excuse me Miss Marple but, why can't he go out and find another job?????? Seems to me there are a lot of people that complain about those on welfare and receiving food stamps getting jobs. Why, is he any different?

Your policy doesn't explain why you ran 3 stories on a former attorney's disciplinary actions and in this case and others you choose not to print them. What's the difference?

Eric,

Not to beat a dead horse, but I would like you tell us why there was never a story done on Mr. Barton and his suspension. I am sure you are hoping this too will just be forgotten but it won't be. Thanks

I don't know what Cheetah learned, but what I learned about Marshall Schools is alarming. I urge everyone to check out the link that Cheetah provided. It is a painful read. I read the achievement scores from the past 4 years for Marshall Schools and all of the schools in neighboring districts, including Sweet Springs, Slater, Santa Fe and Sedalia. Marshall isn't just DEAD LAST; it's SIGNIFICANTLY behind all of these other school districts. WHY??????? What are these other school districts doing differently?

I have children in Marshall Schools, and I feel like they are being cheated. I'm angry. EVERYONE in Marshall should be angry. We deserve to know why our children are not performing as well as other children in surrounding areas.

Having said all that, I acknowledge that administrators and teachers are fully aware of the poor performances and they ARE making efforts to improve those scores. I guess we will find out next year if the new math curriculum has had any impact. I also know there is a "task force" trying to develop a new communication arts program. Let's hope they develop something effective.

Fellow citizens of Marshall, our children DESERVE better. We, as citizens, tax payers, and parents need to demand better. Parents, we must be involved in the education of our children. It is our responsibility. Be involved, be aware, and ENCOURAGE your children to want more, be more, and expect more.

I, for one, will be monitoring the school district's progress very closely. Even more, I will be watching MY children's progress closely.

Again, I urge everyone to read the link that Cheetah provided. It's time to wake up.

Rain, rain, go away!!!

Looking bleek for baseball today.

Fulton Honey Bees tomorrow at 5pm at MHS.

I like our chances.

Go Owls!

What time Tigers/Owls4Life96?

Now that Bartons ethics have come into question

I wonder how many criminal defense attorneys will be looking back at the cases they had in Saline county while Barton was the assistant prosecuting attorney?

Well I read the finding that resulted in Mr. Barton's loss of his license for two years. Yes I think this should have been covered in the paper and I am wondering why it wasn't. I am also wondering why all he gets is loss of his license for two years. If you or I took someones money that wasn't intended for our use it would have been called a crime. Something isn't right here. My opinion of Mr. Barton isn't very high after reading the finding. My opinion of the MDN isn't very high either.

Bcat-

My point is not that he should pile on. My point is that if that link had never been posted or brought up why his office was closed by outside parties, we probably would have never known about it.

My point is if you are going to spend time reporting misdeeds about attorneys you can't pick and choose which to report on and which not to. It should be all or none.

Cosa Nostra,

Names have everything to do with it. At least, in Marshall, Mo.

I second what Marshall Man said Cosa Nosta!! Well said and soooo true!!

Im curious, Mr. Editor. You were all over the story of a former local attorney (Renae Ehler) getting disbarred, even when that attorney didn't even practice/live in Saline County anymore. You ran multiple stories about her, if I remember correctly. Yet, the readers have to dig up facts about an attorney that actually lives and works here that loses his licenses to practice for two years?

This is not the first case either. Another local attorney/former procecuting attorney was reprimanded by the Missouri Bar recently and once again, not a peep from the Democrat News.

http://www.courts.mo.gov/page.jsp?id=439...

Why multiple stories about an attorney that does not even live here anymore, but nothing about attorneys that actually affect your reader's lives now? I guess connections help in keeping stories off the front page, no?

Hey Eric looks like you may need to hire Scarpetta as a investigative reporter.

HUGE conference win tonight Owls!!! Way to go!!!

Eesh kinda glad he was closed when I needed an attorney...

Eric, I was wondering what was going on in our community? I went to a lawyer's office uptown and he was closed. When I googled his name it said something about him loosing his license for two years? Can you shed some light on this?

http://taxthechurches.org

Happy St Patrick's Day to all. On point: why the Irish really came here, and why we don't tell our students. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03...

It is not really strange that "the hunger of 800 million happens at the same time as another historical first: that they are outnumbered by the one billion people on this planet that are overweight."

New facility in Utah with mega storage capacity for technological communication: emails, cell phones, etc. It's NSA's Utah Data Center to be up and running with essentially warantless searches of private information Sept. 2013. How did this happen?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/%E2%80%9Cw...

Nana Dot, are you saying that Obama is our anointed dictator?

So Eric,

What is the reason we can't comment on the story about the wreck????????

The Economic Development meeting last night -- hosted by MSDC -- was great! I encourage everyone to attend the next meeting (March 27 at the Martin Community Center) to put in your two cents worth. That way, the plan can address what the community sees as the important issues.

I went outside to enjoy the weather. My granddaughter and I were pulling weeds from around an electric pole, when a truck came by on the gravel road and launched a rock up and hit me on the calf of my leg leaving a big goose egg. There is a 45 mile an hour speed limit on gravel roads, who enforces that? I feel certain this guy had to be going 60. I am glad it didn't hit my granddaughter! We saw the truck coming and stepped back too. Where has common courtousy gone? That guy had to see us there! I know if I am traveling the gravel road and I see someone mowing or working in the yard near the road I slow down.

Ugh.... I always wait one day too long.......

CPP I have believed for most of my life (based on personal observation) what Dunning-Kruger have tested. Thanks. I would not have been aware of the validation, were it not for your link.

"U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians"

"We call this an intentional act," Karzai said.

He said the dead included four men, three women and nine children, calling the killings "acts of terror and unforgivable." Another five people were wounded, he said."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/11/u-...

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/...

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/201...

outsider

But who will save them from America?

Many countries citizens, who are our allies, are asking...and answering...that question ...and many are in the quiet, subtle, slow process of establishing much closer ties to China and Russia.

Even Australia, traditionally America's closest ally, is moving in that direction and doing so at a visibly high rate. While our ties with America are still very strong, those times appear to be changing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E...

http://au.china-embassy.org/eng/zagx/

http://www.qbi.uq.edu.au/061009-australi...

Given America's vicious, unjustifiable invasions of so many 3rd World countries who were no military threat to America (and now appear to many people in the World to have been unlawful, immoral wars of aggression designed to seize control of those nations' natural resources) and which the US coerced, brow-beat, and diplomatically intimidated their traditional allies into supporting, its no surprise so many folks are re-evaluating their relationships with the USA.

And then there are all those human rights violations by the USA.

Its no surprise so many folks regard the USA to be the biggest threat to World peace, human rights, and democracy that the World has faced since the pre-war days of NAZI Germany. As a result, many citizens in the EU and the British Commonwealth are now demanding alternatives to the "American solution" and finding those alternatives in China and Russia.

One thing is for sure mate, the USA needs the rest of the World a lot more than the rest of the World needs the USA.

Norway and all those other "nice" little countries don't need to spend anything on military. They know the United States will protect them.

Norway has a considerably higher tax rate for goods (the government's largest source of revenue). Additionally, the social welfare and standard of living in Norway, is far above what is currently being made use of in the United States.

Whew I'm glad we won't get the pipeline now Nana so the increase in gas prices will be totally 'unintentional'. I'm glad you cleared that up. I would hate to think that Obama would intentionally want the price of gas to go up.

I bet Limbaugh would approve of insurance paying for Viagra!

Does anybody realize that Limbaugh has had 4 wives and no children himself. His wives must have been using some form of contraceptives. Why would this guy go after a private citizen for expressing her view when clearly he has been ok with the use of contraceptives.

koeller77

I checked the links - not one word about a private citizen in there.

I guess attacking and slandering private citizens on public airwaves is exclusively a conservative thing.

Jason1969

Rush is getting what he deserves.

His top 17 customers have abandoned him, and his tirade against a private citizen is just another example of conservative morality -- "Do as I say, not as I do."

When you claim the moral high ground but wallow with pigs, you can expect that the American People will eventually kick you to the curb...and rightly so.

The Republicans will learn soon -- in November -- what We the People think of conservative "leadership."

"You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time."

Abraham Lincoln

I laugh at the outrage of people who have of Rush, at the same time irealize you have thee right to be outrage just don't be selective about it.

Luvthoseowls,

I'd like to hear your thoughts about Payton Manning, and maybe your projection for MU's success in the tournament.

Also, I'd be interested in seeing the PET scan of Limbaugh's brain in comparison with a a few adjudged to be normal.

What if we didn't talk about Rush Limbaugh or politics and started talking about sports? Like Peyton Manning or the college basketball bracket that's getting ready to come out.... Or heck, even soccer if we can't think of anything else!

Actually, Nanadot, when I googled it, I found a HUGE amount of information about it - it was on Hannity Show, too.

However, I agree with you, it doesn't match the size nor scope of Limbaugh's comments. I was just giving news the links he asked for. ;-)

Jason1969

So say you...

Where are the links to your sources so we can verify the accuracy of your claims...

...and while your at it, which of those you listed are NOT people who make their living in the public eye?

Which of those you listed are private citizens and not politicians?

Politics is a rough game that comes with a big payoff and a lot of power. Those rich, famous folks knew what they were getting into and they apparently thought the benefits were well worth it when they chose that career.

They made that choice.

The private citizen never had a choice and 0 (zero)% of the benefits.

But right now I am just interested in seeing/hearing these terrible comments about the rich and powerful politicians you feel sink to the conservative level so well illustrated by Rush's comments. Show us the specific examples you cited. Let's see the links.

I bet I will probably find you are attempting to try and compare apples and oranges, sort-to-speak.

Forget Rush Limbaugh- What about Peyton Manning??

I don't believe that Rush is even religious. He just uses it as a platform to promote himeself and his vile ideas.

Anyway Jason; some religions allow for multiple spouses. Some modern day religions consider witchcraft to be a part of their beliefs. Some allow for 'honor killings'. I don't belong to any of those, but they do exist. We have legislated against some of these things, but Jason, do you now argue that the government should allow honor killings in corporations where the owner is of that mindset?

Let's just quit making excuses for Rush, and try to minialize him somehow.

Dig into the core of most of our problems and you'll probably find it's rooted in religion.

To call the issue of Limbaugh slandering someone publicly multiple times over several days poliitcal is foolish. It's just plain old bad behavior from an immature, whiny baby-boomer who thinks his opinions are facts.

Doesn't matter what your politics are, that is an actionable offense as well as in extremely bad taste.

Yes Jason, and may you find your way there some day. All things are possible.

ANY NEWs Agency or Politicians putting out information on anything better be accurate or be eliminated, Nothing taken out of context or a flat out lie! No excuses, No retractions. These people are Professionals,or should be! Police Officers are held too that standard,so there's no reason they can't be too!My Opinion!

Rush says he was trying to be humorous whereas Bill Maher actually is.....

There is a huge difference between public discourse of public issues and using the airwaves for a personal attack on a private citizen. The 2 are in completely different categories altogether.

Perhaps it would behoove those on the right and those in the middle of the road to stop taking their advice from drug addicts and folks who engage in the illicit trafficking of drugs. Perhaps now they will do the right thing and stop supporting -- at least financially -- that drug addict of the airwaves, Limbaugh.

No wonder America is headed to Hades in a hand-basket.

Smart Dog,

There isn't. The right-wing drug addict has a zero chance of defending himself in court on this one.

She has a very strong tort case against that right-wing drug addict.

In fact, he committed several torts.

I bet he has already agreed to a settlement.

"Limbaugh blasts 'overeducated' young single white women"

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/06/li...

It would appear he is at it again.

Why on Earth would anyone give the opinion of a hard-core drug addict who admitted to trafficking in drugs any credence?

Its time for that sleaze-bag to retire.

Falwell v. Flynt http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ge...

IT,

What could the Dixie Chicks possibly have to do with the likes of a foul-mouthed drug addict like Limbaugh?

Speaking out against immoral, wars of aggression is patriotism.

Launching public, slanderous, personal attacks on an innocent college student for personal and political gain is down-right evil {its also a tort}.

Aye, Smart Dog!

Perhaps we could create a "Hall of Infamous Missourians" and put old Rush in there along side the likes of Jesse James, William Quantrill, and Robert Berdella.

I believe that might be more a more appropriate honor.

Interested Too - oh, yes, Rush had PLENTY to say on the subject of the Dixie Chicks back in 2003. I can't find any transcripts right now, but I remember it well!

Thanks news across, I am aware of the birth requirements for president, but my question about my friend, was based on the fact that he had given up his US citizenship to become a citizen of Germany, but then was "naturalized" as an American citizen years later.

Even if you are a "natural born citizen," if you renounce your US citizenship, are you eligible to be president?

Interested Too,

I don't think slander is considered free speech, which, from my view, is what Limbaugh has done.

Publicly calling someone a slut, or a wh*re, is not protected speech. Well, unless you are in Judge Cebull's courtroom, I reckon, where sexist slanderous humor "touches his heart."

Does anyone see a correlation between the backlash against Rush Limbaugh and what happened to the Dixie Chicks years ago when they got in trouble for criticizing Bush?

Both lost some money that backs them.

Is this all political, or is there a 1st Amendment issue here as well?

I back no particular horse in this race; I just wonder what people think. It is nice that both examples come from opposite political venues. Does anyone remember if Rush had a comment on the Dixie Chicks losing some venues and backing from their incident?

Hey George,

One man's trouble-maker is another man's soldier of truth.

Each to his own I guess...

Anyway, here is a nifty song you can listen to while you give it some thought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq...

GeorgeMcFly

Apparently you missed the typo alert and the corrections notation in the comment immediately following the comment you apparently didn't read very carefully.

I clearly stated my position there.

Maybe you should scroll down and re-read the comment you are addressing.

As to whether you can appreciate my concerns in Marshall is immaterial to the discussion.

I have just as much right to post here as you do, regardless of whether or not you agree with that. But, as I said, I have already addressed the concerns you mentioned. Try scrolling down.

Don't condemn a statement because it is misspelled.

You'll learn more on reflection from how it smelled. ;)

against

Interested Too,

I see you have never read a copy of the current Constitution in its original form.

As it turns out, our Founding Fathers could not spell very well either.

At least I am in good company.

Anyway, numerous misspellings by our Founding Fathers in our Constitution has never been an issue for our Supreme Court when interpreting the Constitution as far as I know.

Perhaps our Supreme Court is far more concerned with the meaning of the words, from the perspective of our Founding Fathers, than they are the spelling our Founding Fathers used.

Interestingly enough, unlike every one of those learned men and women who have served our nation over years as United States Supreme Court Justices, the final word in American Jurisprudence, your approach to interpreting our Constitution seems to be focused entirely upon the spelling -- or misspelling, as the case may be -- of our Founding Fathers.

Well isn't that special.

Mate, if you don't like my misspellings, you would hate the current Constitution in its original form.

Then again, maybe you already do.

You know, just sayin'...

Weak.

Danged if I know.

why don't you go have a look.

As for the typo, don't sweat it. Its not a graded quiz.

And I remain, the undisputed, Welter Weight Typo King!!

inthemiddle

Regarding American citizenship and who can run for President, to be eligible one must meet all of the following requirements:

1.) They must be a native born American citizen. This means that they have to be born in a state, territory, or military zone of the United States {IE: Senator McCain was born in Panama, which is not the United States, but he was born in a zone governed by the U.S. military).

2.) They must be at least 35 years old.

3.} They must have resided in the U.S. for 14 years or more.

4.) They are not eligible if they have already served 2 terms as President.

It may surprise some folks to learn, for example, that Australian actress Nicole Kidman is fully qualified to run for the office of, and if elected, serve as President of the United States.

She was born in Hawaii while her Australian parents were vacationing there.

She has attained the age of 35.

She has maintained a residence in the USA for 14 years or more.

However, I don't think she has any interest in the job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Kidm...

inthemiddle

Yes, each country is sovereign and each has its own laws. This includes citizenship laws.

Both Australia and the United States allow duel citizenship.

U.S. law in this regard is particularly interesting.

Our 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees any person, except for the children of foreign diplomats who are born while their parent{s} is/are assigned to the USA by their government, are automatically permanent American citizens.

The 14th Amendment guarantees that a natural born American cannot be denied his or her American citizenship under any circumstances, and all American citizens enjoy absolutely the same exact rights no matter where in the World they may live. Duel citizenship has no effect upon that what-so-ever. So says our Constitution. So says our Supreme Court. So say our laws.

I might add that under no circumstances would I ever be willing to give up my American citizenship nor would I give up my Australian citizenship.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html...

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ge...

I had dual citizenship I declared for the good ol USA, I was born in the Germany.

An interesting side note about my friend who had dual citizenship, not that any of you are begging for more detail; when he became a legal adult, he was required to choose either American, or his other country. Although born and raised in the USA, he chose citizenship in the nation of his grandparents and moved overseas. (He always spent holidays and summers there.) After living there for several years, he realized that living there was not the same as visiting there.

Eventually he became disillousioned with his choice and wanted to return to AMerica so he had to apply for citizenship and take the test. I have never asked him, but I wonder if he is eligible to be President.

News Across,

Third typo: You have dual citizenship not "duel". Though you do have a penchant for "duelin" it out.

Cheers,

"Limbaugh apologizes to student..."

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/0...

Not everyone can use the same type of birth control. Some insurances pay more than others. The cost can vary, however I find $3,000 a quite impressive amount. I know that my insurance doesn't cover the brand I have to use, so it was costing $75.00 a month, until I went online and got a coupon that reduces the cost down to $25.00

a month.

I feel that it is a great opportunity to hear the opinion of others outside our area and country. It gives me a wider perspective on issues that we all face. I have learned a great deal by looking into some of the comments made here, doing my own research and forming my own opinion. I don't agree with everything I read, but that is my right, as well as it is the right for anyone to post thier opinion here.

G-McFly

Yes, noticed the Volt problem, a car for people with money to whom the govt. gives more money for buying it(GM=Government Motors). The used 4-cyl. truck I just bought cost the same amount as the Volt incentive-rebate. But I can't haul lumber in a Volt even if I could afford to buy a Volt.

Another Volt problem is that it's misrepresented as to fuel. It burns second hand coal. In other words, a lot of charging electricity comes from coal fired generating plants. The Carter era solution, natural gas, works and doesn't require total reconfiguration of how vehicles are built. Also transportation ideas suited to places of high population density don't necessary work in places of low to very low density.

GeorgeMcFly

Oh are you confused about my citizenship?

Well let me help you out.

I am a natural-born American citizen, born and raised in the good ol' US of A.

My Mom and Dad were born in America too -- in Missouri -- just like my Grandparents were -- and just like me. On my Dad's side of the family that line of Americans goes all the way back to the 1700's -- when we were just 13 British Colonies, On Mom's side that line of Americans goes back 14,000 years.

I don't think you can much more American than that, mate.

I am also a naturalized Australian citizen,

Its called "duel citizenship."

And yeah I like being in Sydney a whole lot more than being almost any place in America.

However, make no mistake about it, no matter what country I happen to be in at any point on the timeline, I am always a Mashallite.

Get used to it.

As to the rest of that silly comment, you can't support your position with any credible, factual, evidence, expert opinion, or qualified sources. All you have are empty, meaningless statements that have no basis in reality.

That is why your positions are untenable and without merit.

...and now you want to blame your lack of basic debate skills on me?

Frankly mate, it looks more like you want to kill the messenger because you don't like the message, sort to speak. That is a losing proposition right from the start.

G.M.(Goverment Motors) is suspending the Volt for lack of sales don't worry folks the goverment will borrow more money afor their "Volt" program you know the car that most people can not afford, Good Job Barry the friend socialist.

former editor,

Many of us who no longer live in Marshall still own property there, have close relatives living in the area, are well rooted in Marshall, and/or have other vested interests in the Marshall area.

We have every right and good reason to be concerned with those local, state, and federal policies that affect our vested interests and our family in the Marshall.

Granted, there are some in Marshall who may disagree with a particular message or position of other the other folks who are concerned about their vested interests in the Marshall area have. After all, we all have an opinion or preference -- tenable or untenable, and there are those who would prefer to have a forum in which their opinions cannot be questioned, analyzed or tested in any form or method.

Sadly, of those in Marshall who may disagree with the well supported position of some other folks who may not be in Marshall 100% of the time, there is a tendency to attempt to elevate themselves to the self-appointed position of "Great Decider" of what is and isn't important to all the other folks who have a vested interest in the City of Marshall.

Oh they make lots of wild claims and accuse those they disagree with of having an "agenda," or even attempt to paint other folks as "foreigners" who live in strange, "foreign countries," when in fact those folks they are making the wild claims about are as equally American as you and me, and equally as rooted in Marshall as you and me.

I think perhaps the problem is not the ground upon which a Marshalite's boots happen to be resting on at some particular moment in time, but rather the problem facing the "Great Decider" is formulating a workable strategy for pushing his agenda while silencing those willing to point out and analyze the self-appointed "Great Decider's" agenda.

BellyJeans, Marshall Man don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!

MarshallMan,

I find your comment rude and uncalled for!! How do you know those crazy drivers are on welfare? I am sick and tired of people putting other people down. You don't know why someone may be on welfare and frankly, it is none of your business. Yes, there are some that abuse it but there are also a lot of people who need it and use it wisely. Quit being so judgemental. Thank you

And while you doing the best you can to organize your thoughts, here is some "thinking" music to help you along your way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPlRDaQGE...

Smart Dog,

I read the article and agree that he fits your description of "immature and disrespectful", especially for someone in his position. That being said, you seem to be painting conservatives with a pretty broad brush, my friend.

Once again, I find I am disgusted by the immature and disrespectful actions of a fellow baby-boomer. This one, a federal judge in Montana, and apparently a card carrying conservative, deserves a good old fashioned "a$$ whippin'" for his lack of taste and maturity.

Just google "Richard Cebull" and I am sure you can find what I am talking about.

The guy needs to be removed from his job. If he thinks this is acceptable behavior by a federal judge, then to me that proves he is not fit for the position.

Try saying that about my mother, to my face, Mr. Cebull, and you will go home bloody.

.....and conservatives wonder why most folks are weary of their attitude and don't take them seriously any more.

Sheesh.

You can tell it's 1st of month. Every one that get's a welfare check is driving like mad to get to the bank and get their cash, at us taxpayer's expense of course. So just drive safe out there, cause the system sucker's don't.....

Really wish the high school would run the play another night. I know several people who want to see it but the tickets are sold out. Sad not everyone will get to see the great performances from the students.

A friend of mine is looking for the "Jim, the Wonder Dog" book and can't find a copy. Seems strange she is having a problem locating a copy in Marshall.

I am so ready for Owls baseball!!!! Many of the kids out on their own working through the winter, hitting the indoor cages, getting in some good glove work, throwing, getting better, lots of promise to be excited about.

Freshly cut grass, the white chalk, seeds o'plenty, popcorn, shade trees in the outfield, pine tar, ting-ting, a pearl laying next to the mound, mitts popping, and gum smacking. It's here, it's coming.

Owls baseball, 2012, get ready!

"Upper class people more likely to cheat: study"

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/27/up...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/wor...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/up...

http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/tec...

pfft

meagin you might look at the difference in the price of electricity in Australia vs the USA. Although I am sure it is the paradise that news tells us it is electricity costs almost twice what it does here. (Wikipedia for my source.) Because of that you would need to carry the cost longer to break even. Unless you are made of money you will need to borrow the money adding more cost. I would still argue for the good things that generating power from the sun can do for us but until the cost of electricity is elevated more you won't see a wholesale move to solar energy in the USA.

Jessa

Thank you for answering my question.

I appreciate it.

With the recent school shooting in Ohio, I have grave concern for our own high school, I was wondering if the Marshall Public Schools have a plan of action when it comes to security at the schools, Eric could you check on this if you have the time?

Jessa

How does that urgent care thing workout for uninsured folks who have no cash to pay for it?

Marshall will never have a urgent care facility. That would be a step in the right direction but it would take away the dollar from the hospital and that isn't gonna happen.

Now NanaDot,

That's not what Rush and Glenn say, so it can't be true!

Actually, there is enough theivery on both sides of the argument to defuse the central arguments; the earth is overpopulated, it takes too much energy to sustain us, and there isn't much that anyone is willing (or able) to do about it. So....we shall slowly and surely sink as a species until somehow, someway; Mother Nature takes care of things in her own manner.

I am not saying going green is not a bad idea for an individual corp to go green especially one with the money to do this. I am just saying right now with the state of the economy its not viable for us a country and provide proof of my comment in an earlier post. With that being said Energy Sec. of going 9$-10$ per a gallon of gas is in our best interested he is the direct statement: n September 2008, Chu told The Wall Street Journal, "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe." In a follow-up article, ABC News interviewed a scientist who had worked with Chu, Lee Schipper, who estimated that European gas prices were at about $7 to $9 per gallon.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/021...

Now why do I bring this up is bc low income the poor the one's that Our President is looking out for is going to be hurt bc they can not afford this and speaking of going green can the low and lower middle class really afford this with the cost of Green energy and don't say the goverment can pay for this Our GDP is smaller than our debt right now.

We are done in Afghanistan. Even those we are helping have turned against us. Our coalition partners are going home. The sun has set, it is time to bring every body home, instead of leaving them to grope about in the darkness that has enveloped Afghanistan.

Peace. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/26...

Jason isn't it interesting that Fox News did not let that American corruption stop them from putting up their own solar panels?

Please look at the link below, you will see that Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox News last year proudly announced that his company News Corp is now Carbon Neutral. This was achieved by installing solar and other green initiatives and in this article he states that he has 'saved millions of dollars' by doing this. Why does Fox News fail to let their listeners know the benefits of solar?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/01...

To those who are in favor of green energy, Solyndra, and now this, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/...

nouveaublogger

All I can say is that the system we purchased has performed better than I ever expected.

It provides all my home energy with enough power left over to sell to the electric company on a one for one ratio which pays out $2000.00 a year (which is tax-free income here).

I am planing on adding 12 more as time goes by using the proceeds generated by the excess energy production. We think home solar production offers a nice tidy extra income source limited only by available roof space.

Mr. Crump,

The issue of an urgent care for this community, might make an excellent Poll question, if any would use an urgent care facility if one was available, how many think it's a necessity, how many don't care?

Thank you.

I realize my prior comment will more than likely be deleted due to the sensitive matter of Medicaid therefore I'd like to rephrase:

I have spoke with officials at Fitz...the community need does not show that an urgent care facility is needed and the funds are not there. REally????? are you serious???? I can not afford trips to the ER for sore throats and ear aches that could be easily handled. Yes; I have insurance that I pay for that is not state funded and I would use an URGENT CARE facility! Please; lets make this an awareness....

Jason, I must take issue with your statement. You state that there would be minimal environmental effects associated with the Keystone Pipeline and the production of energy from tar sands. In fact there is ample evidence that this kind of fossil fuel development will produce even more greenhouse gasses and increase the risk of oils spills (and we all know how responsible energy companies have been in this area -- BP and Exxon Valdez for example).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...

Shouldn't the issue be getting our energy from clean sources such as wind and sun? Fossil fuels are a finite resource and cause damage to our environment, they are continually becoming more expensive, have been the reason for so many wars and really only benefit the owners of the energy companies. As you know News and I now have solar and our energy is free. My question is why haven't Americans been given the chance to have this type of energy? Instead what I see are vested interests sabotaging the chance for my friends in your country to have free energy and these same vested interests ignoring the impact of environmental damage on one of the most beautiful places on this earth. Why should people pay for dirty energy when they can have free clean energy?

And 'inthemiddle', China mines for silicon to make their solar panels and have made so many there is actually a glut of them, that is why China has cut back on them. The cost of solar panels has been steadily declining. You might find this article interesting

http://www.wikinvest.com/industry/Solar_...

As solar can eliminate power costs, some enterprising people here in Australia have set up solar farms, they feed the electricity back into the grid and get payments from the energy companies. This is the kind of thing that should appeal to the free enterprise tradition of the American people. Why it is not being promoted over there is beyond me. It would help if we had some links to credible sources who have been discrediting clean energy, I would love to see their rationalizations.

In this country we will never have solar panel farms and wind turbine farms at least not to the point of Australia, There are to many Environmentalist, you have some endangered animal that would be threaten and just look at the keystone oil pipline after years of study proven minimal effect on the environment and the one area it was going to effect they were willing to move it. Obama blocked it so to some it all there are to many left and right wing groups on the fringe that would block this.

In the middle said it so well.

Darned if I know inthemiddle,

but I know I am energy independent now.

Not only that but now I am producing energy that not only meets all my energy needs but also produces new income -- $2000.00 a year.

Here in Australia solar panels appear everywhere.

Most of my neighbors have them and I see them all over Sydney. All our traffic lights, traffic cameras, street lights, ect are all powered by solar panels. In the Outback a lot of folks are building big solar farms and we have a thriving green energy market. Here in Australia it is one of our National goals to become the leader in energy export in the future and we are working hard towards that goal.

Well RR,

I recommend multi-crystal panels because they produce electricity on even cloudy days and the system won't shut down if part of it ends up in shade.

Mono crystals will shut down the entire system if part of it is crossed by a shadow, and they won't even produce a reduced amount of electricity on a cloudy day.

Mulit-crystal are definitely your best bet.

As far as American Producers, suppliers, and installers goes, I am not familiar with any on that side of the World, RR.

Our Panels were made in Japan, the inverters (we have to have 2 because of the directional configuration of our panels) were made in Germany. All the work was done by local tradesmen here in Australia.

So I really can't recommend any company there RR. I wish I could. I am sure there are some good, trustworthy solar companies in America but I am not aware of any off-hand.

Frankly, America has gotten so far behind the rest of the World in technology over the years that I am not even sure what is available there.

Here in Oz many, I would say at least half, the homes seem to have them, but when I was in America about a year and a half ago, I didn't see even one panel on any homes.

By the way

if anyone has an interest in solar panels, I am pleased to report that the 12 panels my wife and I bought and installed have gone way beyond our expectations.

Our complete installation cost was $8000.00.

6 months since we got our panels fully functioning we are getting all of our electricity free and now the electric company owes us $1000.00 for the excess production.

Electricity in Australia is very expensive. Our electric bill used to average $600.00 a quarter ($200.00 per month). Our bill went to $0.00 -- zero dollars -- immediately after the panels were operational.

The bottom line is this, we pay no electricity bill what-so-ever now, and the electricity company owes us a thousand bucks for the excess we produced. The panels will pay for themselves in less than 2 years, have a 10 year warranty, and are built to last 25 years.

Going green never felt so good!

...and it turned out to be quite lucrative as well.

I highly recommend installing solar panels.

SC Answer you,

Is neither A nor B ... was wondering when the rules changed on accidents ( or who you know when it applies) that tickets will not be issued when a wreck of running a stop sign, as long as the driver is honest and has insurance no tickets! this was per the chief of Police when a off duty highway patrol hit me when he ran a stop sign and my 2 grand kids was in the car with me...

Eric,

So do I assume this person ran the stop sign?

I want to know did this person have insurance ?

Was this person honest and admit the accident was his/her fault?

And if these answer are truthfully answered yes then we ask...why did they get a ticket??

These questions to be answered with truth is very important to me....

I see someone wants a set of stop signs on Ellsworth at Vest after another wreck there. We don't need stop signs there we just need people to pay attention to there driving and not run the stop signs on Vest. Inattention, talking on phone or taking picture with your phone while driving etc, is the major cause of most accidents. Did the driver that caused the accident get a ticket, just wondering.

Juicy Sprigg was the only one I remember being around the park the winter of 1956. Was he there the summer you were there? I expect that we may have passed close by each other, at times during our overlapping years in Marshall. It is my loss that I didn't meet you Jo.

Yep, I do Jo. He was a huge man with a huge heart. He used to put a towel across his belly with the seat all the way back in his old pick up to keep from getting steering wheel rub offs on his belly.

He was Driver's Ed teacher at the time, which I took the fall of 1956. He also was Parks Director. He knew I was a poor kid, called me up after class, and quietly told me that they needed someone to paint (aluminum paint) the storm fence around the old ball park during Christmas vacation. Fifty cents per hour, I jumped at the chance. After work every day due to wind, aluminum paint, and a roller I glittered every day as I walked home from the park. I nearly froze doing it, but it left a warm spot for him in my heart.

Ain't life full of 'em BnR. Life lessons never end. Just when you think you have a handle on it all you get swatted, or lifted up, and have to pause to reflect.

By the way I did some of that senior bench sitting, no fun, and humiliating in a sense. I played more as an undersized sophomore than I did as a senior. I reflected on it a lot, mostly about things like why did my folks send me off to first grade when I was five, and why did it happen that I was slow to physically, and socially mature. A good part of that was a waste of time. Another lesson learned. ;)

It appears bornnraised that you learned another life lesson, an even more important one. Life is not fair, but we must persevere.

Which of these young men are in the gym year round? Which play in summer leagues against strong competition? I suspect it is the same ones who have succeeded on the court this year.

Just like everything else you get out of it what you put into it. Companies no longer promote someone just because they have seniority. They promote based on who can get the job done, who has worked the hardest to enhance their skills, and who will enhance the company's bottom line. Such is competition, life, and life lessons for the young.

Yes, But when you come into a program as a new coach and toss the seniors (2-3 year varsity players who worked hard to get to the top and who deserved to play) to the side in order to build "your" program with freshmen, I don't agree. But that's old news. The future has arrived and next year should be awesome. Go Owls!

Alloutowls,

Glad to see someone else supporting the coaches. Parents are always so quick to attack coaches. It's tough to go to games and listen to the negative stuff that parents say about coaches, other players, and refs. It's getting harder to find a place in the stands that you don't have to listen to it. It is a big part of why kids get out of sports. Looks to me like the coaches in the basketball programs put in a lot of time for their kids. But then again I really doubt that the parents notice that or care. If my kids doesn't play, the coach is bad.

Some coaches give up to 5 or 6 months of their time to their kids and sport. They probably will be lucky to get a couple of thank yous from parents and players. I for one am thankful for the coaches we have.

Just got to the sports page tonight and saw the comments under senior night. not much interest in upper classmen during the the coach's 3 years at Marshall. Alot of them quit his first year. Kinda hard to understand. Seems to me a senior should be on varsity not JV anyway. Seniors deserve more respect--many of them worked up the ranks of their sports, looking forward to their turn at the top.

I agree Bigger Picture - very well said! Kudos to this young man! And we wonder why there aren't more upper classmen playing sports in Marshall???

What the....

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ink-Addict...

lololol

Jo, I don't know why, but I had it in my head that you were around Marshall. Maybe you've gone back to the Hoover Dam area. :)

Well, I'm looking forward to meeting up with you one day, somewhere.

I'm about out of family in Saline County, too. I have one sister left there and she's on her last legs.

Slater: All my People are gone ,so i haven't been in Marshall for years! I had a Cousin that ran the Tavern in Slater back in the 50's ! Her Name was Candy.She wasn't there but a short time! All my People are buried in Marshal! But! like the song go's,( don't get around much any more)! My get along is slowing down. ha. Glad to hear your well!

Ok,

So I get that you can't tattoo or pierce without a liscense, but is it illegal to own the tools? Were they caught in the act of illegal tattooing?

Hi Jo,

Yep, getting along okay, and I'm still able to see this computer screen. :)

You know, I have no memory of drinking fountains around the square, but in my younger years, trips to Marshall with my parents were strictly business - we got what we went for and that was it.

Jo, on my next trip to the Marshall area I plan to look you up to say howdy. :)

Yea Slater! Everything's fine,how you been. Is your Eyes OK? On the front page they were asking about the (what i remember) were Drinking Fountains.I wonder if that's what their talking about? I think they were removed in the late 40's or early 50", when they widen the Square if i remember right. Do you recall or anyone else?

Hey Jo! You doin' alright my friend? :)

Thank you Eric. Doesn't the prosecutor have 24 hrs from the arrest?

We'll keep you alive from eight to five,

five days when you seek.

Saturday, like Sunday, is our fun day,

we'll see you the first of the week!

(Popped in my mind as I read these posts, and I couldn't resist sharing) ;)

The "practice" of medicine seems to have evolved from a 24/7 commitment to an 8-5, Monday to Friday commitment, which says, don't get sick on the weekends. Right, Dr. Who. We'll get sick only during the week, and only between the hours of 8a.m. and 5p.m.

It's all about this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ rather than this $$$$$$$$.

I agree we need some place to see a Dr. or nurse practitioner on week-ends. It never fails kids come home on Friday sick. The only option locally is the ER, and that stinks! What an opportunity for someone to do a good thing.

Does anyone know of an urgent care facility open on weekends that is closer than Columbia or Brookfield? Since MVP doesn't see patients anymore on Sat. I now have 2 ER copays for something that could have been taken care of by a phone call. However when I called MVP and asked for physician on call I was told to go to ER. FYI Marshall - a town the size of Brookfield, MO (5500) has a FABULOUS urgent care at their hospital. I have insurance...I do not want to go to ER for NON-EMERGENCY situations!

BellyJeans - I didn't see your comment, so I don't know what it was. I believe Meagain's comment was probably left solely because Eric had responded to it, to try an avoid further questions.

You'll note that he didn't directly answer her question.

Trust me, if only "some" people were allowed to comment, there'd be a lot more deletions on this site.

Eric last night I heard on the scanner something about shots fired on the 700 block of west Thomas, Have you heard anything?

Eric, why was my post deleted???????????? I am really beginning to think only certain people are allowed to comment on anything. MDN is just like the rest of this town!!!!

New Jersey to fly flags at half staff for Whitney Huston....WTH!!!!! What a bunch of Hog-Wash...Give Me A Break...

Went to my first MSDC meeting this morning. That group has a lot going on. Don't let anyone tell you differently. Go Bill Riggins!

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, EVERYONE!!!!

OKR, I know your intention was honorable, so stop fretting. I was just having a little fun with your choice of words, and at your expense, I admit. :)

By the way I used a modifier, (deliciously desultory) to, I had hoped convey the positive aspects of the word desultory as defined. Some portions of its definition are nearly contrary to one another. Mea maxima culpa.

Upsedaisy and NB,

We make "desultory" conversation. (heh heh - short e sound)

NB,

Thanks for the link, and, no, I have not found a like item, but I figure I won't, since my taste buds have gone haywire in my advancing years. I won't be surprised if it turns out I don't even like the stuff any longer. Ha!

Oklahoma Reader

Yes indeed mate.

Ah, but upsedaisy on this blog we can imagine whatever suits us to a tea. ;)

Thanks ND for the vote of confidence.

I meant land of the lost, brain flatulence I reckon.

Hey News, I liked your tribute song to those now in the land of the loss. She is awesome.

However, in a different way I think the following link to a song also is a fitting tribute, in a slightly different way; Paul Simon, "Still Crazy After All These Years". This is my favorite version of the song. It is unplugged with Michael Brecker on sax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bkXgxb6...

ND I too miss WT. I sort of halfway thought he might have reappeared with ew stimulating the religion blog. ;)

Oklahoma Reader

I liked Raytown Bill. He had a lot of energy and unusual ideas.

Another memorable one was John's hammer. I loved it the day John posted his political manifesto. I almost died laughing when I read it. Then I thanked goodness John would likely never ever be in any position to put his manifesto into effect.

Yeah John was a lot of fun to have around.

3rd Child was always rather entertaining as well. I can imagine 3rd Child is out there somewhere busily organizing some Tea Party gathering of one sort or another.

Anyway, I wish them all the best and I am posting this song video link in their honor. May their lives be happy and long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SfkFG_rV...

Hey Slater, thanks for filling in for me in my absence.

Upsedaisy, the little store was built in the 1930s and I cannot remember the man's name who built it. The Wood's bought the store in 1939, or 40. As far as I know, it's always been called the Little Store. Ethel is the one who started the lunch counter by putting in a grill to serve hamburgers and hot dogs to the school kids. She told me the kids had an hour for lunch at that particular time. My husband grew up in Slater and ate lunch at the store, he said there were possibly 2 chairs and 1 small table, so everyone stood up, outside if the weather was nice. He stated Peck always sat in a rocking chair by the wood stove, so he placed on there in his honor. I believe we are the 5th or 6th owners of the store since they retired and sold the store, which used to house pinball machines and a pool table and juke box (after all the grocery equipment was removed). We did remodel and removed the pool table and juke box, sadly, for lack of use. I suppose the kids have their video games awaiting them. The kids today have 2 lunch shifts and only 20 minutes. But it's hopping for that 40 minutes of the day. Other than that the coffee pot is always on...........

Better break out your walking shoes, looks like we're fixin' to do the gas dance again!

I wish I could go to Dublin. Sadly,I don't have any available vacation time, or I would sign on the vertual dotted line.

I am far from able to retire, so I must continue working.

A wise man once told me, "Every village has it's idiot."

He further went on to say "try not to let it be you."

Slater and NB,

I was struck by the New England start too. Could you talk about the Little Store's history?

Slater,

I understand completely....been on a little vacation to the third floor for a couple of weeks now myself. When the hubs decides he can run things (which I have successfully managed for the past six years)better...I tend to let him prove it! ROTFLMAO...but quietly...;)!

I'm sorry, forgive my manners, Earl...how do you do? Fairly well, as I see in most of your posts. So, to you I'm new here...and, you just decided to jump on my band wagon and start insulting and yawning? Sorry, if we bore you. One would think with all of your wealth, you have the ability to entertain yourself in many other ways and situations.

Ignore him, WTF. It's his way of trying to make friends.

Slater,

Glad to say (knock on wood)we haven't had that kind of weather, so far, this winter. I had fun telling that story to a friend only a couple of weeks ago. :) Hope you and your wife are having fun getting re-aquainted on a 24-7 basis. From my experience, it can be frustrating some days...LOL. And...what is retirement? I don't think I will ever see that, given the longevity of my genetic make-up and the fact the government upped the age to draw SS!

Yes, Ethel was from Vermont and she still had that East Coast accent when she spoke, very charming! I knew she wasn't from Missouri the first time she said the word "burgers"! HA!

I appreciate the links, meagain. Thanks very much!

FYI: http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...

Here is another link:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_a_child_o...

It explains that if parents are being deported due to being caught here illegal, they have the option to take the child to their country of origin. If they have have committed a criminal act the child will be placed in foster care and the parent deported.

Here is a link that I found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_baby

It looks as if a baby born here does not guarantee that either parent could stay here if they are illegal, nor could that child become their parents sponsor until the child was 21.

Slater and meagain

In 1898 the US Supreme Court clarified the 14th Amendment. In the case of US v Wong Kim Ark, the courts essentially ruled that a person born in the USA was by birth a US citizen no matter the citizenship of either parent.

At the time, Chinese immigrants were forbidden by law to become US citizens. Wong Kim Ark was born in the USA. As an adult he visited family in China. He was forbidden entry into the USA upon his return because he was not a citizen. He sued. The Supremes ruled in his favor, and it was not a court that was known for its racial tolerance. This was the same court that allowed separate but equal segregation.

According to what I have read, if a child is born here; it is a citizen. If one parent is legal, the other not. The illegal one should be the only one in question. The legal one has nothing to worry about.

Thank's Slater, so do we keep the kid and deport the illegal parent's. Some of our law's are about as clear as mud or the rule's of golf. I think some stuff need's an update. Time's have changed and not for the most part better.

Hello NB,

I just saw the notice for Ethel Wood and, after our conversation about her in 2009(?), I didn't realize that she was still living.

So, how are you? Haven't seen you around these parts for a while.

I heard the sirens of the fire trucks during the game tonight. Be safe fellas! You are all appreciated!!!

The scary danger of meat, even for those that don't eat it. http://www.truth-out.org/scary-danger-me...

Well, B-N-B, I'm glad you had your grappling hooks at the ready.

Awwwww somebody is being mean. Stawp it!

Hey you tried sheepdip, kudos to you. Why not keep doing it? At least you will get the satisfaction of aggravating the miscreants. It won't be the same degree of aggravation that would transpire from recieving a ticket, but it helps.

Oklahoma Reader. I have tried that many times and you don't know how friendly folks are. Got the old one finger salute so many times i gave up. Still think if the police would do there job people would soon get the message.

Mr. Editor:

I love how well you've been keeping the FB feed updated! I don't always have time to pop over here to see the website, but I always know when there's a good story posted by looking at my FB feed.

Keep up the good work!

Thank you.

So, I guess in some parts of the country there'll be six more weeks of weather? And then what?

Hey Earl! Do you have groundhogs in Morocco?

Guess some people can't even ask questions. That is just plain RUDE!!!!!

Earl I enjoy your wit. I probably went overboard with my last comment. Sorry about that.

Don't gather around the flag pole on a cold day with your tongue hanging out.

Kumbaya!

I would feed the cows Earl, but there is a dog in the manger.

Hay, what do you think about that?

Fork it over?

Earl did you recently return from a trip to the Australian Outback, one you forgot to tell us about? :)

All aboard for Namia, Barsom, Kandrakar, and Ethshar, Leaving in a moment, back in a moment. Hitch Hikers welcome. ;)

Keep On Keepin On Earl!!!! I love it, your full of something and it ain't Bologna but your the BOMB... If you ever need someone to tag along on your adventure's hit me up..Peace out Bro.

"There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity...

Big Daddy--"Cat On A Hot Tin Roof"

Oops! This was supposed to go on the movie quotes blog, maybe?

Is it just me or have some comments been deleted or otherwise hidden?

Oh, Smokin'....I love your posts.

I think I smell fish again! Just on certain crime stories I understand!! Because you can go back and search an comment on certain ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come some of stories we can not comment on???

Sounds a little fishy to me!!!!!!!!!!