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Speak Out January 1 to February 1, 2012

Saturday, December 31, 2011

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I think some good questions have been raised about the deputy but I think the problem is much deeper. The question is why was he still employed when others have been fired for FAR less. It seems the Sheriff needs to answer some tough questions before he gets elected again. If you know anything about the Sheriff's Department, you know this to be true. The problem starts and ends with one man, who answers to no one, except YOU! Make him accountable as you've been paying for it for years. Don't just cast the same old vote because you think he's your best friend, because I can assure you, he's not. It's time to elect a law enforcement professional willing to embrace the 21st century way of policing to protect the citizens, rather than being concerned about a traffic stop losing a vote. As long as the Deputy is professional, it never will. For too long you've relied on a man stuck in the stone ages to protect you and although his service is commendable, it's time for a change.

-- Posted by jd.wilson65 on Tue, Jan 31, 2012, at 8:47 PM

Editor,

Any word on the MSHP investigation against the now former County Deputy and is this just being handled at a local level or have investigator's from say the Jeff. City office been involved? Do you have any info for your reader's

-- Posted by Marshall Man on Tue, Jan 31, 2012, at 3:48 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
No word on the MHSP investigation. The deputy resigned from the Sheriff's Department effective today.

Eric,

It is fine, I still respect you, you are a excellent reporter.

I was just curious of the " incident "

Just color me stupid, for wanting answers and truth

-- Posted by momandgramma on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 10:25 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
I've sent you several email messages with further explanation. Are you not receiving them?

Eric,

Thanks, but have we heard about the other incident? Surely something has to come out because I do not think they was having a Law Enforcement Reunion at the Budget Inn lol

-- Posted by momandgramma on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 8:18 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Oh, sorry, I forgot which incident. Yes. Mr. Bellamy was discovered at a local motel and was apprehended soon after.

Eric,

Is this the story I was asking you about ?? Or this not related?

Bellamy faces 3 felony charges after allegedly fleeing law enforcement officers

-- Posted by momandgramma on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 6:58 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
No, I think this is a different situation.

What's the latest on the investigation of the deputy suspended? Any updates?

-- Posted by tigger2118 on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 6:22 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Not yet.

So...Yellowknife...my, my, that's quite an imagination you have, Earl. Duel citizen, too, eh? Must be using that yellow knife, dontcha know.

-- Posted by Miss Marple on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 6:15 PM

Hey Eric,

There's a bunch of cops running around the northwest side this morning with lights flashing, Just thought you might be interested.

-- Posted by What the f...... on Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 7:09 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Definitely. Thanks!

Ol' Earl U.

Having flown into Vermont a few times, I am surprised you found a plane large enough to have a first class section. Be that as it may, it's good of you to share your flights of fancy with the rest of us peasants. Especially the part about "the" first class stewardess reading you a short story by Hawthorne no less as you sipped your Chianti. Did you take the cute bottle w/its straw wrap with you or did the stewardess supply you w/a candle to put in it right there on your tray table?

-- Posted by upsedaisy on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 11:03 PM

Earl U

Truthfully, I have no idea how many rows of seats make up the first class section, nor do I really care. I can't imagine why that kind of information would be useful to anyone other than airline people.

My ludicrous statement was intended sarcasm that apparently failed, and, like the row count, so what?

No, I'll pass on the upgrades. I prefer "steerage," where the people are more authentic.

-- Posted by Slater on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 10:30 PM

Grandiose: Having an exaggerated belief in one's importance, sometimes reaching delusional proportions, and occurring as a common symptom of mental illnesses.

(It's always good to understand what you are dealing with.)

-- Posted by born-n-raised on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 10:27 PM

hmmmmm ty Eric

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 9:36 PM

Eric,

Do we have update on Saline County deputy under investigation ? And maybe why he is being investigated ?

I would like to know since he is still being paid ...make sure my hard earned money is being used wisely

-- Posted by momandgramma on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 11:07 AM

Response by Eric Crump/Editor:

No additional information is available yet.

Still no news?

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 9:20 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
No news yet.

NanaDot and Slater: It's been my experience that truly rich people - the ones with any class at all - don't talk about how wealthy they are. And talk is cheap, y'know. Doesn't take money to know that there are multiple rows in first class - and guess what - often doesn't take buckets of money to sit there. ;)

-- Posted by Miss Marple on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 8:03 PM

ND,

I've been on a lot of different commercial airliners in my lifetime, and I have yet to see one with multiple rows in first class.

-- Posted by Slater on Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 11:49 AM

Eric,

You are welcome and ty....they had quite a crowd of all law enforcements.

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 5:51 PM

Eric:

Do you know why Highway Patrol,Police and Sheriff was at the Budget Inn, College and Morrow late last night?

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 2:18 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
No, but I'll check. Thanks for letting me know.

Yup Nana, no matter what you write about some people, nor how outraged they become by it, you can not damage them as much as they are by their own words. ;)

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sat, Jan 28, 2012, at 11:48 AM

So Earl, it is O. K. for you to make fun of me, and Ms. Crump, but not for me to poke fun at you. If you can't take it, don't dish it. How about that? Sound fair to you?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Fri, Jan 27, 2012, at 10:06 PM

Oklahoma,

Stawp, stawp! You're making me blush.

(But seriously, thanks for the compliments. It's nice to hear, any time, any day.)

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 9:06 PM

Thank you Ms. Crump. I understated my opinion of you.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:55 PM

You know Cheetah, one of the hardest things there is to say is "I was wrong". It gets a lot easier though when you look around, and realize the smartest people you know say it with some frequency.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:49 PM

that second paragraph should have read "everyone's got the right to shoot from the hip."

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:31 PM

Oklahoma,

Thanks for the compliments and support.

George -- I can't speak to what Earl was referring to because it appears he was commenting on a post of his that got deleted. But the conversation between Earl and me on snarkiness is still there so we must be having a civilized conversation now.

I respect everyone's right to shoot from the hip. Goodness knows, I have done it plenty of times in my life and will continue to do so. I usually get a chuckle out of having one of my comments deleted. It reminds me that I have to follow the rules too.

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:22 PM

;)

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:10 PM

I am amazed that some people will for whatever reason attack a community asset. Amy Crump is a community asset. Even from afar I can plainly see all the things Ms. Crump does for the community.

Yet somebody chooses to shoot from the hip based on erroneous assumption, and likely winds up wishing they hadn't.

I hope for two things as an outcome. First, that people realize to be sure before they criticize, and not assume. Second, when they do forget to not assume, that they learn to have the grace to apologize.

Been there, done that. Haven't we all?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 7:56 PM

Snarkiness doesn't seem to be the problem. Direct insults are usually the problem when a comment is deleted. Believe me, I've had some of my comments deleted when they violated the rules.

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 7:30 PM

George,

An excellent point. I was responding snarkily to someone who suggested I was taking care of personal business while at work. I don't expect everyone to be aware of when my hours are.

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 7:08 PM

By the way, Earl -- if you were a regular library patron, you would have known that my post was made during my lunch hour because my hours are posted outside my office door.

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 5:33 PM

Earl,

Just got home from work and saw your questions.

My lunch hour runs approximately from 11 am to 12 pm. The post from this morning was made from my home computer during my lunch hour.

Tell you what, if you are concerned about how much money you are paying me, let me know your name and address and I'll confirm if you are paying taxes to support the Marshall Public Library.

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 5:29 PM

Is there any further information about John Angelhow's status after last night's School Board meeting? Was the non-renewal of his contract a consensual matter?

-- Posted by Amy Crump on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 11:33 AM

Eric,

Do we have update on Saline County deputy under investigation ? And maybe why he is being investigated ?

I would like to know since he is still being paid ...make sure my hard earned money is being used wisely

-- Posted by momandgramma on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 11:07 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
No additional information is available yet.

More info on free DTV and antennas.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/antennas-and-d...

-- Posted by Smart Dog on Wed, Jan 25, 2012, at 8:28 AM

Smart Dog

Thank You I will look into all the info you have suggested . It will be really sad when they do get rid of free t.v. but I refuse to pay for cable and even dish network . Watching shows on the internet has it's days numbered also from what I hear . I am only 37 and I am sure just in my lifetime I will see digital t.v. die and even networks on the internet like NBC and CBS will cost me money just to watch there shows . Until then I will put an antenna on my roof and pray I get my money out of it before they flip the switch . :O)

-- Posted by ambsun on Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 4:23 PM

ambsun,

I have a big, old Channelmaster antenna on my roof left over from the analog days. It works just fine for reception of digital tv.

It is a "deep fringe" model, which is what you will need as the broadcasters in Kansas City are about 90 miles away.

I was told by a guy I know, who I trust is knowledgable of these things as he is a farmer and a big old nerd, and he says the broadcast wave is the same, it is just that the information imposed on the carrier frequency is digital instead of analog. Apparently, your digital tv recieves this broadcast frequency and decodes the digital information.

I also suggest an antenna rotator. One of them things we used to have to point the antenna in the right direction. These antennas are directional, and must be pointed at the broadcast tower.

Try google, I am pretty sure there is lots of info on this out on the web.

Also, keep aware that cable companies, and the FCC, would love to do away with those broadcast antennas and make everyone subscribe to cable, or satellite. So far the FCC still requires the tv stations to broadcast that free signal for anyone to recieve without subscription.

I do not trust that corporate America will allow that to go on much longer.

-- Posted by Smart Dog on Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 3:36 PM

I have a question for anyone who can answer it . I want to buy an antenna to put on my roof to pick up channels from columbia and kansas city . I have a rinky dinky digital antenna on my t.v. now that on a good day I can pick up 6 whole channels . Does anyone else out there have an antenna on there roof that they are using to get channels from columbia or kansas city ? Does it actually work ? I do not want to order cable or even the dish , I am old school and dont want the extra cost . I do use my computer allot to watch shows but I really would like to watch the news without it glitching every time a criket passes gas outside my window . Any info would be appreciated . Thanks :o)

-- Posted by ambsun on Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 2:36 PM

Not only was the Iraq invasion unacceptable, but it made Iran stronger and gave them more influence over the middle east. Every action has consequences and now the same people who called for Invasion of Iraq are doing the same with Iran.

We should seriously consider our actions and results of those we have previously taken.

-- Posted by cheesehead on Tue, Jan 24, 2012, at 11:23 AM

OMG,

Can you honestly sit there with a straight face and tell me that Iraq was necessary? More importantly can you say that with a straight face to the families of the dead and wounded on both sides? When we do things like that we do more damage to our national security then if we had just left them alone.

I'm too old to go to war and I already did my stint but you'll forgive me if I am tired of seeing young people of all nationalites die for the likes of Haliburton.

If Iran attacks us fine, game on, but the last thing we need is a bunch of hyper-patriotic warmongers who just want to satisfy thier bloodlust for another televised war sponsored by Coors Light and Doritos. Discretion is the better part of valor.

-- Posted by What the f...... on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 9:06 PM

WTF... Will YOU be going to fight?? It amazes me that people honestly believe we fight "unnecessary wars". Isolationism and declaring neutrality sounds all fine and good in theory, but ask Belgium and the Netherlands how that works out when things really hit the sizzle point. Present day the stakes are even higher. Now we are talking nuclear capabilities and long range missiles. I don't know about you, but I prefer my clouds of the cumulus rather than mushroom variety.

-- Posted by OMG! on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 7:59 PM

Oh my NanaDot, I think the water's our ship's sailed thru are an international water way not Iran water's even though these fool's may try to claim the whole gulf. Our ship's didn't go there to steal Iran's oil, we don't get any oil from there haven't for like 30 year's. You think our fine Military and Country go around the world bullying and stealing from the weak. If you think this I feel very sorry for you and maybe you should rethink what country you live in, maybe Iran???. Don't think any of us wish for any more war unnecessary or not, lived thru one 40 year's ago not cool... God Bless our Troop's and the U.S.A Our Country Love it or Leave It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by Marshall Man on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 2:59 PM

Just wondering if the Arrow Rock Fire dept is going to write a AFG grant for the truck, they should qualify for it and possibly get it for nothing. check the FEMA website for AFG grants for firefighters

-- Posted by mofireman on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 2:53 PM

Moodyblue,

So not wanting anymore unnecessary war is considered trash talking?

-- Posted by What the f...... on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 1:07 PM

I posted in support of Marshall Man because as soon as I read it I knew he would be attacked by the bloggers on this newspaper. It was nice to hear somebody talking positive about out country instead of trash talking it. I see it took a whole 35 minutes for the negative comment. Even though you came at the comments sideways your intentions are clear.

-- Posted by moodyblue on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 12:59 PM

I'm all for supporting our military, protecting our nation and our national interests but you folks sound like you are spoiling for another war.

Will any of you posters be going to fight it if that happens?

-- Posted by What the f...... on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 12:33 PM

I agree too Marshall Man! I bet there was quite a pucker factor going through the iranian guard, lolol.

-- Posted by OMG! on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 11:44 AM

Very nice post Marshall Man. I'm with you 100 percent. God Bless the U.S.A.

-- Posted by moodyblue on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 11:37 AM

U.S.S Abe Lincoln sail's thru the Strait of Hormuz. With that mass of Sovereign American Territory along with it's carrier force coming at you I bet Big Bad Iran wet all over it's self. SUCK it IRAN!!! God Bless the U.S.A

-- Posted by Marshall Man on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 11:21 AM

Bcat,

How can the heatlh and well being of our fellow Amercians be a step backwards?

-- Posted by What the f...... on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 5:27 AM

Tank I don't consider Wiki an original source. I really don't know what your point was in asking. I provided links to two other sites, and mentioned there were many more on the subject. I sometimes (rarely) along with others, provide a link to a Wiki site because they are easy to read. Was there something on the site you wished to discuss?

Again, your point in asking?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Jan 23, 2012, at 2:02 AM

Oklahoma Reader,

Do you really consider wiki a reliable source?

-- Posted by Tank on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 11:18 PM

By the way TigerBlood if you want to further discuss U. S. standard of living as it relates to politics, I'll meet you at the political blog.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 11:15 PM

TigerBlood check my comment below. Since you brought Barry's statement to the blog with out checking its accuracy you too should get some credit.

I am sorry to disillusion you both, but It has been a while since the United States was ranked first in standard of living. Norway, a socialist democracy, is first in many studies these days, Australia is also consistently ranked high. Take heart however we are still in the top ten of some rankings. You can still tell folks that we have a top ten standard of living. That is almost as good.

Here are just a few of the many web sites that can get you up to date.

http://www.skeptically.org/economics/id2...

http://www.marketingcharts.com/topics/eu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 11:10 PM

"The U.S. is a free-market economy, and that is why our standard of living is the highest in the world.

But if we don't vote President Barack Obama out of office soon, we might not be able to retain that status."

Barry R. Randolph

I am sorry to disillusion you Barry, but It has been a while since the United States was ranked first in standard of living. Norway, a socialist democracy, is first in many studies these days, Australia is also consistently ranked high.

Take heart however we are still in the top ten of some rankings. You can still tell folks that we have a top ten standard of living. That is almost as good.

Here are just a few of the many web sites that can get you up to date.

http://www.skeptically.org/economics/id2...

http://www.marketingcharts.com/topics/eu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 11:01 PM

WTF,

Spoken like a true Lib. You can make all of the excuses you want for his failure to improve the economy during his first term (Obamacare was a huge step backward). The fact of the matter is that despite having a Democrat majority in both houses during his first two years, he FAILED TO LEAD. That's probably a good thing, given hie propensity toward Big Government. The man may be President, but he certainly is no leader.

-- Posted by Bcat on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 10:44 PM

BTW,

Is everyone aware that no matter who the president is there is no magic wand. Love'em or hate'em, president Obama walked into some of the worst economic problems our nation has ever faced. He cannot snap his fingers and make them go away overnite and it's not like he's getting any help from those who caused the problems. I can guarntee you that a Newt presidency won't be any better any sooner. No matter what you have been told republicans aren't magic either.

Now all we hear is about "Obama's" welfare. By all means, let's let people literally starve but that's ok cause them rich folks are only paying a 15% tax rate.

-- Posted by What the f...... on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 6:56 PM

Why did my comment get deleted? Guess the truth hurts some people's feelings. I guess it depends on whose toes your stepping on whether your comments stay or goes.

-- Posted by owlsfanforlife on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 6:55 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
It has to do with commenting on rumors. Please send information about the incident in question to ecrump@marshallnews.com

Why won't some people let things go that happened forever ago and no longer interests anybody because they don't have any truth in them? Find a true story to occupy yourself. It would be great if adults would not fuel the drama going on with some of these kids. Be a positive influence to your kids not a negative example.

-- Posted by beautyqukay on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 5:40 PM

People are obviously really interested in false stories. Maybe there's no investigating because there's no truth.

-- Posted by beautyqukay on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 5:35 PM

Well put Barry, I'm sick of all the system sucker's crying tax people who have money or that make a good living more so we can have more hand out program's. I'd say more but ain't gonna ruin my day, but Mr Obama must go and all of this welfare, medicaid, and other hand out program's must stop, simple math it is breaking our country.

-- Posted by Marshall Man on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 4:49 PM

Dear Mr. Grrrr

I wouldn't say it's an interesting comment, I would say it's a horribly uniformed comment and they don't understand what the 99% is trying to say. The 99% doesn't want a hand out, that's straight out of FOX news.

The 99% doesn't hate the wealthy or wealth in general. It's not about wealth per se, it's about how they got it, what they do with it and the fact they will do anything to keep it. Even if that means manipulating our goverenment and military.

When the wealthy buy OUR government in order to institute practices and laws that benefit only then wealthy then that's a problem for everybody.

The government of, by and for the people has become a commodity that only the rich can afford and only the rich will be represented. I want OUR government back. How about you? Is that the government that you want?

-- Posted by What the f...... on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 2:36 PM

Why are people so resistant to change? I believe the answer to be fear. Fear of the unknown. It is not so much as "It was good enough for me so it is good for everyone" as it is fear. If you are not at least walking forward, even baby steps, the world is leaving you behind. I have heard comment that Marshall is stuck in the fifties. I do not believe that to be true, but stuck in the 20th Century would be a valid comment.

Things can go on the way they are if that is the way we want it. Only people can change the future. I am one of those that say we need to take a giant step forward and get things started. Is anyone out there with me? How and when do we get started?

-- Posted by red dog on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 12:07 PM

Well said. Build infrastructure, invest. Add to that hunting, fishing opportunities. Good place to retire.

-- Posted by mu-grad on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 9:47 AM

I-70 a toll road? I can see where Saline County will benefit if this happens. I-70 at 65 Highway is a major intersection if only because of Sedalia and lake traffic. There will be a toll booth there. The Marshall Junction area will be developed beyond current expectations. Tax wise, this will be a huge boon to our economy. We won't have to worry about turning the current cloverleaf into a diamond intersection. All we have to do is making sure water gets south of the intersection.

We in Marshall will have to get with it and give travelers a reason to come north instead of south. That would be tourist attractions. "Marshall is Music" takes on a new meaning. Civil War history, our really nice eighteen hole golf course, our really nice disc golf course: all can be played into semi-major tourist attractions.

We need to build a new infra-structure into the town. New school buildings will be a major part of this. A good start has been made over the years of getting rid of the blight. Approaches to town are looking much, much better.

Advertise. Billboards, other highway signs, television, facebook, you are limited by your imagination.

Personally, I don't need I-70 and don't anticipate paying to drive on it. There are plenty of other ways to get to where I want to go without getting onto the big highway. Let the out-of-staters and transport companies pay the toll.

-- Posted by red dog on Sun, Jan 22, 2012, at 8:28 AM

How many parents monitor the activity of their children on social networking sites? Maybe some parents need to be more involved with their kids relationships and friends. If there are a personal issues between several students at MHS - you parents of any involved student need to MAN UP to your kids and deal with it at home amongst yourselves. The Bible teaches us that we should love one another. If these kids were involved with a church youth group (and maybe they are), they are not listening. These recent pranks that were pulled are bullying PURE and SIMPLE. If my child were involved in something like this, there would be grave consequences at home first, school second! Activities and behavior like this within a student body are hard on school spirit - it is like hurting your own family! You are hurting your school - something that after over thirty years, still should be a most important part of a young person's life. Just sayin'.

-- Posted by farmer'sgranddaughter on Sat, Jan 21, 2012, at 4:13 PM

Movie 'RED TAILS".

Showing at Marshall Cinema?

Movie is showing in Sedalia, Columbia, and Lexington.

Sedalia showtimes for 1.20.12 are 7:10p and 9:45p

-- Posted by CWilli on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 2:45 PM

Text messages at the highschool! Will you ask about that? Or will this get deleted!

-- Posted by yomomma on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 1:33 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
It would be very helpful if you would email me what you know or suspect so I can ask school officials about it.

ecrump@marshallnews.com

excuse me....just wanted clarification on the story about the assault, carefully worded, mind you as to not disrespect......story just sounded weird if he was hit and he was the only one arrested...jeez!!

-- Posted by wheresthelove on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 12:52 PM

thanks Eric, I apologize to you.

-- Posted by mofireman on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 11:55 AM

What problems are they having?

-- Posted by 3up3down on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 11:09 AM

Any news from Marshall High School about the problems they having there?

-- Posted by yomomma on Fri, Jan 20, 2012, at 11:01 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
I talked with Jeff Kramer last Friday. Hope to have a story ready early next week. Short version: Bullying is a problem but incidents are not increasing. Social media's influence is a big challenge. All reports of bullying, fighting or hazing are investigated quickly and thoroughly. There have been no substantiated hazing incidents this year.

Prayers to the Tyree Wyatt family!!

-- Posted by momof3girls on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 3:07 PM

Please say a prayer for the family & friends of Tyree Wyatt. He died in a car wreck yesterday. A wonderful young man that will be missed by many but never forgotten.

-- Posted by nomad on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 8:40 AM

Good point J69.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 1:26 AM

When it comes to the safety of a child you should take anything serious and investigate it to the fullest in the meantime you need to protect the children and keep the suspect away from children.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Thu, Jan 19, 2012, at 1:04 AM

Which is why proof is absolutely necessary. With it, there is nono chance for inaccuracies.

-- Posted by Tigers/Owls4Life96 on Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 7:38 AM

owlsfanforlife...it used to be that if a teacher said your child did something the parents took the teachers side. Now its the other way around. Doesn't matter who the staff member is, experienced or inexperienced, parents automatically assume they are wrong and the kid is right. Very sad.

-- Posted by momaster on Tue, Jan 17, 2012, at 7:34 AM

How much has this town invested in it's youth recently. Built a jail, 9-11 center, voted down school bond issues 5 times? Before the naysayers get on the topics of cost too much, can't trust administration, wrong site... be patient with me.

Kids today need technology, facilties. The HS commons, theatre, gym is busy almost every night. New facilties would fill up with positive activities immediately. I know this is not a total solution. But, it is an Investment!

Back in 1976 people were upset about a new HS. Spending the money, moving so far away, building design. Doesn't matter now. Look how many use those facilties today. Build a new school, it will be such a positive influence on so many lives.

You want people to come and invest in this town-build schools. Ask adminstrators how many people have toured the elementary facilties and decided against coming here. The work environment matters. Just look at the positive effect a new Smith-Cotton HS has had-talk to your Sedalia friends.

Provide positive ideas. Naysayers will be only able to say, I voted it down. Did they provide a solution. Invest and build for the future.

-- Posted by mu-grad on Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 5:25 PM

Today is the day of a giant. Though he towered above us all, he humbly kneeled to listen to the hearts of us, the little people.

May he be at rest with Jesus, in whom he believed, and loved above all others. May the spirit, fire, and compassion of Martin Luther King, a man for the ages, dwell in us all.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 12:50 PM

Curfew. Think back a few years ago when the curfew hour was changed to 1 AM, maybe 1998 or so. The City Council deemed it necessary to make it 1 AM so kids working late, like at McDonald's wouldn't get into trouble for curfew violation. I am not sure about child labor laws but why is a kid allowed to work late hours so a 1 AM curfew would be enacted?

When I was coming up, the curfew was 10 PM. That was about right. Nothing much good happens after 10 PM.

-- Posted by red dog on Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 11:18 AM

Well there is some good news.

The kids do grow up eventually, and being a Grandparent is a whole lot easier than being a parent...so far.

-- Posted by news across on Mon, Jan 16, 2012, at 4:45 AM

The 1 A.M curfew is a joke there is nothing open for the older teens past 11 P.M.. Since the parents are not being parents make the time 11 P.M.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Sun, Jan 15, 2012, at 3:53 PM

Marshallgirl71,

Sounds like you are taking the right steps to raise your kid right. I think if your kid was treated differently you would have a complaint. I don't claim to know any of these situations nor do I have a side. These are kids who did a dumb thing and should be punished for it. I just get frustrated at the continual negative banter that these things create especially from all the speculation before all the facts are out. Unlike others I do believe you have more than an outside interest becuase of the case of your kid. But for others they use it just to put down the entire school district and other area authorities when probably 99% of the people they complain about have no control over the situation and have little knowledge of what happened. I have talked to teachers who knew nothing about it until Friday.

-- Posted by a realist on Sun, Jan 15, 2012, at 3:38 PM

realist, you said there wasnt a whole lot the school could do to them? Well just this school year I know a MHS student, who along with another student made a post on one of the web sites about a peer. This student was spoken to by MHS officals & given a warning. This because a student reported this to the officals. Then sometime after that this same student was reported again, by another student, for verbally bullying. The student was again spoken to by MHS officals and given a 5 day suspension. This student....is my kid!!! After further looking into the situation the video post was made last school year and at someone elses house. Does that make it right NO. Believe me, my child did not like me much after she recieved her punishment. Im sure she would have rather done community service. But the posting was not done at school, wasnt school related, and was a year old when reported. When I confronted 3 school officals of this I was told because of new bullying guidelines the school can get involved if it is reported to a school official. And I wasnt even called on the first incident. Didnt get a call until my kid was given the 5 day suspension. Unfotunate for my kid Im not a business owner, a school offical, nor am I part of their cicle. So if this example doesnt prove a little how things are run in a small town then look a little closer or talk to a few more people. My kid has alot of questions about why things were handled the way they were in their incident and the way things are in this one(and 3 others very recently) and I cant answer them. But as the parent I will do everything in my power to get the answers.

-- Posted by Marshallgirl71 on Sun, Jan 15, 2012, at 12:07 PM

The last few comments brought this to mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slv0j5USB...

-- Posted by Slater on Sun, Jan 15, 2012, at 10:02 AM

When I was a teen, some of the local churches got together and created a safe, healthy place for adolescents to get together, listen to music, dance, enjoy soft drinks, and socialize on Friday and Saturday nights. There was a small cover charge but the drinks and the popcorn were free. There were volunteer parents who chaperoned and everyone seemed to have a real good time. It gave us something to do that we enjoyed, we had a lot of freedom to enjoy ourselves, and our parents knew where we were and that we were not up to no-good.

Maybe the teenagers there in Marshall need something like that. It sure would beat the negative things some of them have apparently been doing lately according to what I have been reading here.

-- Posted by news across on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 11:46 PM

I am so thankful that my daughter is grown up. When she was a teenager she pulled every trick in the book. She would sneak out of the house, we nailed her window shut, grounded her took away her car for thirty days.

She had a job, would bring home a fake schedule so we would drive her to her job. She would have someone pick her up at her job and get into trouble. We made her quit for her actions. It did not matter what we did or what punishment was dealt she was she was into something. We got her to be a volunteer at the hospital as our form of community service. She snuck away and hung out with friends. We made her quit.

She became pregnant her junior year, finished school and now has a college degree and hasn't been in trouble since.

I am glad parents were not held accountable. I feel that with some kids it does not matter how much grounding, taking things away, community service you give them they are going to be bad.

My husband and I are both educated, and have good jobs and are well respected in our community, yet she was a trouble seeker. Our other children didn't do anything out of line.

If parents are held accountable it should only be if they are not doing thier job as parents. My husband and I did everything in our power to be good parents. We went to counselors, we even took her the the juvenile office and let a juvenile officer explain what could happen if she continued down the path she was on, nothing worked.

Her turning point was becoming a parent herself.

I guess my whole point is don't be so hard on the parents, unless you know for sure that the parents are not trying.

-- Posted by meagain on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 9:41 PM

How about we let all the authorities do their jobs? At the time of the Democrat News report, it was stated the police identified who they believe were responsible. That was Thursday. They did their job and referred it to juvenile authorities. Now it's their turn.

School districts can't do a whole lot until there is some form of a police report. If the school would have done everything that has been proposed on here there would already be lawsuits filed against them. There haven't been any charges filed have there? At this point, everyone feels that 4 people bombed mailboxes. That may be true but if you were in a car and someone decided to pull a gun and commit murder would you sit back and accept a murder charge yourself? Not the same situation but you get the point. The MHS activities handbook is generated based on rules set forth by MSHSAA. Parents sign it. I think it's black and white regarding felonies. I've signed one before. But punishments are enforced depending on the severity of the action. Thus you have to at least wait until the whole thing is mapped out. As far as keeping a kid out of school in general it's probably the same thing. You better have a good case.

It sounds like there is a good chance the police are identifying the right people and I'm sure that there is the process of questioning all involved and what their roles and motives were. Let's wait till that is done before we start commenting on authorities and schools not doing their jobs.

I do find the bullying point interesting. I never thought of that and it could carry added weight. I sure hope the victims were questioned about that. Does anyone know in cases like this are local authorities and charges usually pushed aside and the federal felony charges take priority?

-- Posted by a realist on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 8:20 PM

Agreed.......what is there for kids to be doing at 1am in the morning.......especially 15 year olds? Maybe this town needs to enforce a stricter curfew for kids under the age of 18! Seems to me like this would be a great place to start! This could possibly put a decline in the "pranks and delinquent" behaviors........if the parents and kids were both received the consequences!!!! Who decides the curfew, the mayor or the police?

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 5:29 PM

You know my ex use to say "Kids will be kids" time and time again since our son was 15 on everything he did wrong, practicall joke or not. You want to know where he's at now? He's sitting in PRISON for the next 7 years!! Don't think if you look the other way it will stop because it don't it just gets worse, if you don't do something about it now. I don't like to visit my son in a Prison and I bet the parents of these kids won't either. Just saying!!!

-- Posted by peanut6483 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 5:29 PM

I personally feel 1 am is only asking juveniles act out come on people let us get a bit of knowledge ....answer the question federal offense, I would think .

Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any mail deposited therein, is that not fines or can be imprisonment?

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 4:55 PM

Curfew in Marshall is 1am and yes it is enforced.Blowing up a mail box wouldn't that be a federal offense?

-- Posted by arojr on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 3:40 PM

I'm not saying these kids/parents are bad nor am I saying they need be hung on the courthouse lawn but if no parenting or discipline and positive attention in the home followed up with consequences for bad decisions....

I'm sorry for all the children/parents this happened to.

Say I was not a victim and I am not a parent of the child that did these dirty deeds.

I would like to know, do we still have a curfew here in Marshall? and is it being enforced by our law enforcement? If this answer is a no then maybe a first step getting that back and enforced ( fine parents )then so on so forth after so many times breaking curfew.

Where was the parents when these dirty deeds was unfolding by these juveniles?

If these was students and was targeting ones peers from his/her school why was this not taken in consideration stalking to cause property damage/and or bodily harm?

Physical stalking is following someone, appearing at a person's home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing one's property.

Why was not bullying taken in consideration?

Different people have different definitions of bullying, but four characteristics qualify a situation as bullying: the behavior has to be intentional, be repetitive, be hurtful, and involve an imbalance of power

I do hope these kids do get more than just a slap on the wrist, hope is the first time for these things and not just first time they was caught.

-- Posted by momandgramma on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 3:13 PM

kids have been blowin up mail boxes for 100 years. why back in the 50's we had these things called m-80's and cherry bombs.....why we could blow a mailbox almost 30 feet in the air.....those were the good ole days! as far as punishment....we would have to clean out the stalls in the horse barn.....and take the manuer to the garden for the tomato plants...i'm pretty sure these kids are pretty good kids and so are their parents....this ain't no mountain...it's a little bity ole mole hill!!!!!

-- Posted by oldshart on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 2:52 PM

School punishment will take the form of loss of A+ benefits. Since this is an extension of a bullying issue-harassment between students, the Administration will counsel-monitor. Could be off cheerleading-sports, depending on results of criminal prosecution.

-- Posted by mu-grad on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 2:18 PM

These are not terrible kids, they have made some dumb choices and it seems like some people think they should be locked up for life! Give the legal system time to work, and remember nobody on this blog has control of it unless someone on here is the judge! Be thankful no one was hurt and move on with your life! I am betting they all feel terrible about what they have done and never intended to hurt anyone!

-- Posted by kkmom on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 1:35 PM

Yes red dog some of know who they. Thats part of all the complaining about the punishment. Some parents are business owners, some school officals, and others parents are friends of theirs.

-- Posted by Marshallgirl71 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 12:32 PM

Well said Jason & Mojo! WE have all been teeagers, we have all done stupid stuff, and made bad choices. But this seems by far the worst. In my opinion, and before everyone gets defensive, it is MY opinion. Take a minute and look back on recent(the last 10-12 years) events through out the United States. All the school shootings, teenage suicides, and teenage deaths related to drugs/alcohol. I wonder when things in their community, pior to their tragic event, involving teenagers was chalked up to kids being kids? I honestly don't think anyone in the community is asking for unfair or cruel punishment for these kids. But if a crime was committed, then those involved should punished for just that. It shouldn't matter who the parents are. And punish the parents too if necessary. And Mojo, I hear not only still attending school, but also participating in sports and other school activities.

-- Posted by Marshallgirl71 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 12:26 PM

Where are the U.S. Postal Inspectors?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM

Why would the schools have any legal reason to punish these kids? As far as I know, none of these acts happened during a time the schools would be liable for anything. Those that are worried might want to go talk to the prosecutor and see if some kind of legal action can be taken. I am not saying being fearful is wrong but there has to be a way to alleviate those fears somehow. Does anyone know who the kids are? The Juvenile office is involved, so their identity will remain protected. Kids talk though and they know who the culprits are. Ask a kid.

-- Posted by red dog on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 12:16 PM

Agreed Jason. But hold the parents liable while at the same time slamming some swift and justifiable punishment on these kids who know better.

Where were the parents when these 15-17 year olds are out at 2:00a.m.? Where were the parents when these bombs were being made? Where are the parents now? Are they running to fetch a lawyer to bail their kid out to 'protect' them, or are they letting the legal actions take their due course, to hopefully teach these kids a lesson and steer them on the right course through natural consequences?

-- Posted by mojomama66 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 11:55 AM

Hold the parents criminally liable, and watch a lot of problems get solved.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 11:46 AM

I'm just curious as to why these kids were still attending school this week. They committed these crimes against other kids and their families, at their homes. Are these victims not fearful? Because it didn't happen on school property, during school hours, makes it not school related? I have a kid at that high school, completely distanced from this whole mess, who is afraid of what may happen at MHS as a result of all this. These kids can make homemade bombs, can seek out and destroy others' personal property; yet they are walking the halls of MHS....makes me a bit uneasy. What's next, and what steps are being done to prevent it?

-- Posted by mojomama66 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 11:24 AM

Does forgiveness work. Is mercy best. Have the bus vandals, streakers learned lessons. Or continue to err. Do they regret, or laugh about getting away with it.

-- Posted by mu-grad on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 10:33 AM

I fear my mailbox mostly because of the giant load of bills it contains everyday. It's like a litte money-sucking black hole on a post in front of my house.

-- Posted by Smart Dog on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 9:35 AM

If your mailbox had been targeted four times, would you be afraid to be around it?

-- Posted by red dog on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 8:33 AM

Why was my last comment deleted?

-- Posted by BellyJeans on Sat, Jan 14, 2012, at 7:14 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
The discussion had degenerated into a spat. Comments from both sides were deleted.

I guess some people in Marshall really want their 10 minutes of fame. Come on, Fox4 news? Calling them over this? Scared to walk outside, that seems a bit much!

-- Posted by blue123 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 11:22 PM

Of all the things that happen in this town I can't beleive the mailbox bombings made the Kansas City news! Seriously???

-- Posted by kkmom on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 10:16 PM

Lol, why was my comment deleted?

-- Posted by Tigers/Owls4Life96 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 8:37 PM

What if this was not an intended prank. Say revenge, these houses were specifically targeted.

Does this make it more serious.

-- Posted by mu-grad on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 7:12 PM

Do not apologize on behalf of me or the community for what those white-trash kids did to the school busses as a senior prank. They didn't get near what they deserved and rumor has it they didn't even have to finish the community service they were supposed to do.

-- Posted by Almost Critical on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 7:11 PM

Not sure why Mojos post was deleted, but it was so right on. As well as the last post. My kid was one of the names thrown around when the christmas eve egging incident came out. And as a parent I confronted the situation immediately....and yes police were involved. I called them. Long story short time frame reported not possibly my kid. Then a friend of mines kid was accused....the kid wasn't even in town. Point is we are not more respected people in this community...and our kids are being kids...not juvenile deliquents. And on behalf of this community let me apologize to the young men of the class of 2010. Even the school bus pranks, although costly and affected many doesn't even compare to this. Is it going to take someone getting hurt or worse for this community to open their eyes???

-- Posted by Marshallgirl71 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 6:33 PM

I must say that the incident with the mailboxes is a serious issue that need to be dealt with accordingly and soon.. There were serval names that was thrown out there that might have committed these crimes and at that time it was a SERIOUS crime, but now that the kids are identified and are presumed to be kids of the more respected people of Marshall then lets not blow this whole incident out of porpotion because as people in this town that we live in didn't believe that the ones that did do it could have but as we found out that the kids that the cmmunity expect to do these sorts of actions are not the ones that are doing them.. How Do We tell our Children that everyone is created Equal???? We will never be Able Too..

-- Posted by JustANobody on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 6:03 PM

The fact that it falls into a federal offense thats punishable by law should remove it from the "practical joke"category.

Hello reality, have we met?

-- Posted by Tigers/Owls4Life96 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 4:38 PM

Peanut butter- yes, kids just being kids. Tampering with a mailbox, FEDERAL offense! Little more than kids being kids.....kids being criminals! What are they going to bomb next?

-- Posted by prd123 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 4:00 PM

Chickenpotpie-

You obviously don't have children.....unless they are preschool age or college! These kids are smoking marijuana, drinking alcohol and all the above....I am not blind to that fact, nor am I afraid to speak out! That's the problem to many people turn their head and say 'its kids being kids" what a joke.....my kids don't do that....do yours?

Thank you to all you other parents who know what's oing on and ain't scared to address it!

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 3:48 PM

Chickenpotpie, are you serious?

You're comparing peanut butter to bottle bombs, really?

And if you don't think our youth have alcohol and drug problems, you may need to wake up a bit.

-- Posted by Tigers/Owls4Life96 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 3:26 PM

I haven't had a cold this bad for years. Anyone else enjoying this wicked little virus?

-- Posted by What the f...... on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 2:30 PM

I just want to say to everyone whos have called the news stations....THANK YOU. Its time we stand together in this community. NO MATTER what our names are. Iwas told by a news station from KC they had recieved numeous calls and e-mails about the bombings....but come on people we know there is alot more going on at the MHS!! Do we really want a situation here like the community of Hardin just went through??? RuSerious....keep yelling....eventually someone has to listen!! Has anyone called the board of education??

-- Posted by Marshallgirl71 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 1:04 PM

CWilli,

We're expecting good weather for the parade here in San Antonio on Monday, but there's always a good turnout for it, rain or shine.

-- Posted by Slater on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 11:32 AM

Mr. Crump thanks for providing a service to the community by letting us voice our opinions. It's great that we live in society where our goverment does not censor our thoughts.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 9:51 AM

From the lighter side: This popped into my head tonight. There is no dig intended toward those who have kissed a frog, and nothing happened, nor those who didn't realize it was a frog until the next morning, nor even those who have gotten used to saying "ribbit" back, across the breakfast table every morning, and especially not those who kissed a frog that turned out to be everything they wanted, and are still floating above the floor years later. ;)

Wacky Whimsy

Sliding down a moonbeam in a land that's lost

Sitting on a toadstool, and skating on the frost

Consoling the shadow of a weeping willow tree

Knowing that the pond frog sings for only thee

Wonder if you kissed it, just what would you see

Hand in hand with butterflies as you float along

Joining with a wren in a cheerful little song

Lounging on a lily when you tire from play

Relax and go there, if you choose you may.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Fri, Jan 13, 2012, at 1:41 AM

Martin L. King, Jr. Events in Missouri

http://www.hssu.edu/ae/aefiles/50/Dr%20M...

-- Posted by CWilli on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 10:43 PM

Jessa

that's all have been trying to say.... most kids get away with it....now 4 juveniles are gonna take the blame when there was a 17 year old involved ...guess it pays to "mark your friends out". I'm not fussing and no harboring ill feelings at all....just what goes for 1 should go for all!

This will probably get deleted too...even though I am NOT mentioning any names.

Jason1969.....great point bigger cities to fine parents for their kids behaviors....

Question is.....where was the parent since all 5 kids were stating at 1 house.....is there not a curfew? For 15 year wilds to be out til almost 2am....very interesting

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 8:05 PM

I believe that if you held the parents criminally liable for their children's action a lot of kids would straighten up fast. Right you can only sue parents for the actions of their kids. I know you can't force a parent to be a parent but maybe you can give them more of an incentive like this.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 7:33 PM

RuSerious2012,

I didn't miss anything. I am sorry this happened to you and I am sure the juvenile authorities will ask for a victim's impact statement from you and you can tell them I traumatizing this was for your family and your children. I am sure your children know right from wrong and will not follow in the footsteps of others but you have to know this sort of stuff goes on in ALL communities, not just Marshall. The point is they are being held accountable which is much more than a lot of other kids in the community who have committed property damage such as those high school kids who got off completely "scott free".

-- Posted by Jessa on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 5:23 PM

My dear Jessa.....

In case you missed it.....the discussion is about the kids in this community acting out and destroying property and your priority is to be concerned that I am YELLING! well if that is what it takes to be heard in this town and for the truth to come out......I will continue to YELL!

No disrespect to you as maybe you don't have kids....but I do and I don't want this kind of stuff happening around them. I hope no one ever has to experience this.....to many it was a prank.....but to me it hits close......my front door! So again if you don't like what I'm screaming....you can turn your head like others will do!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 2:18 PM

RuSerious2012,

Oh my you are defensive. Settle down. I just simply pointed out they had been referred to juvenile authorities whom will deal with them accordingly. And yes, I have children 3 girls and 4 boys, and we have had some bumps along the way but they are all law-abiding, contributing citizens who were raised with love and respect. And behaviors were dealt with within the home without humiliation.

All children push the limits at some time, some a little harder than others but so do adults.

-- Posted by BellyJeans on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 1:15 PM

Well then, how bout you do some verifing then!

-- Posted by yomomma on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 12:58 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Will do.

RuSerious2012,

COULD YOU STOP WITH THE YELLING!!!!!!!

-- Posted by Jessa on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 12:52 PM

Tigers/owls4Life96-

I couldn't agree with you more. I am proud to say I am the parent that is all in my children's business.....I will go thru their phones....I do go all thru their facebooks....I will call parents....do mini drivebys to see if they are where they say they are......and if not they know all communication with their outside world comes to a screeching hault!

I love my children and want to be their friend on some level so they feel they can come to me about anything.....but my parenting comes first.....if I p*** them off....oh well....then I know I am doing my job as a parent!

There is nothing for kids in this area to do

...I agree! But what do we do? Even Slater has some type of recreation center.....we have nothing!! Why is that? We are suppose to be all about our youth in this town and we ARE NOT!

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 11:45 AM

Bellyjeans.....

Yes I do have kids.....that attend school with these kids....however MY kids have enough respect for people and common sense not to deliberately destroy other peoples property! LET ME SAY.....MY KIDS LIKE EVERYONR ELSES KIDS......ARE FAR FROM INNOCENT! however placing ACIDIC bombs in a mailbox....that's attached directly to the house.....is NOT a prank!Do you have kids and would you feel different if it was your mailbox or your child involved?

People always get to defensive about the kids....but yet so many parents let their kids go to these parties and don't have a clue about what they are doing! All I'm saying is parents need to know what's really going on!

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 11:33 AM

RuSerious2012

I certainly don't dispute that there are issues in this town that many of our teens need to work through, but what are the opportunities and resources outside of school clubs/athletics that we as a community offer to them?

Here's a lot of the issue, people look to others to rear their children instead of taking more of an active role themselves. Granted, good home, active/involved parents, good support system does not completely guarantee non-problematic youth, but it certainly helps with aiding it. At some point, as much as the kids should be held responsible, their should also be responsibility placed on the parents as well.

Pipe bombs, drugs use starting in the 6th grade, underage drinking, inappropriate relationships, Facebook bullying, the list goes on and on, but you know what? Each of these issues listed could be dealt with inside the homes and an increased awareness placed to show that accountability will be expected if/when children cross that line.

When your kids say they are going somewhere, do you take them at the word or do you "follow-up"? Do you check with other parents, do you call, do you drive by? If I knew there was a chance, a real chance and not just a verbal threat that my parents would come look for me at any time of the day or night, you can bet that my actions were thought through a little bit harder. Ask that kids "hang-out" at your house, if there is hesitation, chances are they don't want to because they know that whatever it is they are planning to do isn't something they should be. Pop in, show up, call, so your kid thinks you are over protective? BIG DEAL!!!! They are our children, it's our responsibility to protect them. I understand the giving freedom and space. but to completely give full reigns to me is preposterous. Kids are no different than adults, they will push every limit they can if they think they can't get caught. As adults do you stay within speed limits 100% of the time? Do you have someone drive you if you have even had just the mere sip of alcohol? Do you sneak out of work to run personal errands when you are "technically" supposed to be working? Again, everyone pushes limits, why should we expect our kids not to IF we don't establish them and stick to them at home.

We all know that there is a epidemic in this town with weed/alcohol and our school aged children. As early as 6th grade, wow?!?!? Either there are a lot of really naive parents in this town, or have we just gotten really good at turning a blind eye? Mandatory drug testing for schools? Count me in. What about this? Mandatory drug testing at home? 7 bucks a test, once a week, 28 bucks a month. 28 bucks a month to let you see, first hand, if your child is in trouble. Is it a financial burden, maybe it is for some, but guess what? I am sure we could all find a way to skim that, right? We should, it's for them. The problem is there are so many that allow it to happen, the parents, that it promotes it within their home. So many who do it openly, talk openly, and the kids are there, witnessing it, smoking with them? What the heck?

Same thing with the drinking. Where do they get it? Is it available in the home? Is it monitored? Are they going where they say they are? How do you know? Ask questions. Go see for yourself, anything.

I won;t get into my personal opinions about Facebook, but is it really that hard to see the abuse that occurs on it? Calling names? Inappropriate actions/pictures/comments? Here's a thought, kid has Facebook, mom/dad have password. Password changes, Facebook gone. Inappropriate behavior on it, gone. Same thing with cell phones, misuse it, gone. Simple as that. It is less convenient for them not having it when you need to reach them, maybe for some. Here's the thing, if they have lost those privileges, phones/computer use/cars, then maybe they shouldn't be anywhere you can't reach them to begin with. Have them sit at home.

Why do we try so hard to be friends with our kids anyways? We aren't their friends, we are their parents. Will we make them mad, yep. Will they be ****** and grumpy and hard to please at times, yep. And? I'll take any of that along the feeling of knowing I am doing all I can to protect.mentor/guide/help/teach/educate/inspire/etc. for them as well.

Not preaching, not trying to get on a soap box, but it's out there. Real problems do exist, but expecting only the kids to create the solution is irresponsible of the parents/adults/community. Individually as you read this, if you have concerns personally, ask yourself this, "What do I do to help Marshall youth", "What can i do to help Marshall youth"? The town is not going to magically take care of the issues without the community members stepping up and finding ways to provide extra supports and resources.

Maybe I'm a little to old school?

-- Posted by Tigers/Owls4Life96 on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 11:27 AM

yomomma,

It's because you are putting information out there that they don't want you to. :)

-- Posted by BellyJeans on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 11:23 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
It's information that needs to be verified before made public.

RuSerious2012,

Did you not see where the juveniles have been referred to juvenile authorities? And, one question for you, do you have children?

-- Posted by BellyJeans on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 11:06 AM

Why does my posts about coaches keep getting deleted? Im not saying any names or disrespecting anybody! Please explain.

-- Posted by yomomma on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 10:53 AM

A lot of times a car stop for defective equipment, can lead to an arrest on other charges. The officer will ask for ID on each person in the vehicle, just to run for warrants. Knowledge of past incidents can lead to questions and nervous behavior and or suspisious behavior resulting in a request to search. The request for search then nets illegal substances.

-- Posted by meagain on Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 9:47 AM

Selmac8-

not quite sure what you are saying, but the bombs that were put in mailboxes were far from "mentos and coke" bombs! Someone could have seriously gotten hurt!!!! My point is these kids are getting away with entirely to much stuff in this town!! If they are not taught lessons as kids they will end up in jail.....either way the system is gonna deal with them. Stop letting them "get off Scott free"by using mommy and daddy and make them be responsible for the "jokes and pranks" they are playing! !

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 11:00 PM

"RuSerious2012"

"Small Missouri town makes Methos a coke ILLEGAL"

Slipper slope. Watch the first step.

-- Posted by Selmac8 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 9:12 PM

How much longer are kids in this "family orientated" community going to get away with the dangerous pranks they are pulling? From egging homes to bombing mailboxes.....its getting out of hand!

-- Posted by RuSerious2012 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 8:46 PM

In the traffic stop and search incident reported today - "Received word" from who? It sounds as if Hunter was a passenger, when is it routine for an officer to have concern of a passenger, particularly if the vehicle is only stopped because a light is not working? Why were either even asked for consent to search? And if they had said no, what is the procedure? Just wondering, just seems an article that leaves many questions in the reader's mind, or at least it did to mine. Were there other suspicious actions by the driver or passenger? And people wonder why such things as racial profiling must be studied and analyzed. There used to be a phrase of "innocent until proven guilty", but seems like so many times things are assumed. Believe me, I want the drug users off of the streets and particularly off of the highways. I am sure there is more to this story, but cannot ascertain those details from this write-up. Maybe updating is needed.

-- Posted by the26er on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 6:14 PM

Any new news on the mailbox bombings?

-- Posted by yomomma on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 4:28 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
I haven't heard anything new. We'll check with the police in the morning.

Exactly, OKR!

-- Posted by koeller77 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 1:18 PM

Good idea K77. Some sort of hot tips link to an e mail box eh?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 9:03 PM

OKR - I was thinking something that specifically went straight to Eric's (or someone else's) mailbox. While Speak-out is currently functioning that way, and it is a (mostly) monitored chat forum, it seems that there might be a better way. Also, if it went to an email - there's an easy way to archive it and keep track of how often something is (or isn't) asked to be covered.

-- Posted by koeller77 on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 3:30 PM

K77 is not Speak Out functioning as a forum for hot tips? Why would we need another category?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 10:17 AM

tactlessmonkey: Oh, I agree! And I do think it's important that people let Eric know what stories they want to hear, like he said, so that they can prioritize, and so that they hear about things that maybe don't hit their radar.

I just frequently see comments here about all the stories they miss - and not enough kudos (in my opinion) for the stories they DO get! I wish our local paper was half as good as the MDN.

Eric - not to clutter the front page, but maybe you could do a section where people can submit story ideas/hot tips? Just a thought! :-)

-- Posted by koeller77 on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM

Sorry, I meant 'aggrieved'.

-- Posted by Interested Too on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 9:31 AM

How difficult would it be to open a phone line for a few days to get input from people that work at the Hab Center, then do a follow up with questions to the administration? If you then believe that there is some basis for these allegations; is it not possible to print phone numbers and addresses that the aggreived can call? This is the role I think the paper could take, as MHC is a large part of our community and there does seem to be plenty of speculation. This would keep the paper's manpower commitment at a minimum, and still allow the paper to be a focal point for information. Just a thought.

-- Posted by Interested Too on Tue, Jan 10, 2012, at 9:30 AM

Well written koeller77, I agree with much of what you said. The problem is that well being of employees at the MHC have always been allowed to "slip through the cracks". Maybe if more light were to be shed on the subject through the paper then the managment might make changes. The St.Louis Post Dispatch has proven the power of the written word when dealing with other hab centers and the DMH in general. And before you cry foul about the staff size of the two papers let me say that just a story or two would be appriciated, not a dedicated section.

Just because charges in these cases can't be filed does not mean they have no effect on our community. I know at one time the MHC was the largest employer in the county ( not sure now with recent down sizing ). There are a LARGE number of people in this community that have or currently do work there.

I certainly do not want to sound like I'm whining, I'm just tired of these incidents being swept under the rug by management and apparently by our paper through lack of coverage.

Wether our not these instances have been brought to the editors attention in the past is now no longer an issue. The ball has been placed in your court sir, what will you do with it?

-- Posted by tactlessmonkey on Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 10:27 PM

I don't think that those of you who are clamoring for the paper to do more investigative work appreciate the amount of work that goes into a daily paper! I live in a town roughly the same size as Marshall, with a university that also houses 7k students. We have a paper that only comes out once a week - and we don't get a tenth of the stories covered that "need" to be.

The MDN is a "small-town" newspaper, with limited staff. They do what they can to cover as much of the city news as they can. But they have finite resources, and not even the esteemed Editor Crump can be expected to cover every single event, every hour, of every day. There ARE going to be stories that slip through the cracks. There ARE going to be police events/arrests/incidents that don't get a full story.

Here's the thing: I'm sure Eric would be happy to write 2 sentences about every single event in town. But if they do that, then there's going to be crappy writing, shorter stories, and they won't be able to go in-depth on anything.

Appreciate what you have - an newspaper with award-winning writers who do their level best to cover as much of the community as they can. Go Eric!

-- Posted by koeller77 on Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 10:30 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Thank you. It's frustrating but true that there are limits to what a small staff can do. But we definitely appreciate hearing what people want to know about. That helps us prioritize and that's often how we hear about things in the first place.

Yes Yomomma?

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 7:30 PM

Wow, OK Reader...you sound so smart! Maybe if...nevermind!

-- Posted by yomomma on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 4:40 PM

New Deep Thoughts: At The Edge Of Drollery

Why is Smart never a first name? Family last names from Brown, to Jones, to Cadwalder, become first names in later generations, particularly when a family wishes to pay respect to a maternal line. Never is that the case with the descendants of any of the Smart families.

I can appreciate not paying respect to a maternal Smart lineage if the paternal surname is Guy, Head, or God forbid, Aleck, but for most of you Smart folks it is something to consider.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 2:53 PM

Red Dog..To respond to you comment about.. If you have any information that bears investigating and are willing to come forward I am sure you will find the newspaper willing to go with it if you are willing to go with it...Just so you and every one else is aware, I personally called and spoke to Eric on the phone the morning of the first incident. I asked if they were covering the incident..Eric stated this was the first they had heard of it ,but he would check the Police report.

This paper does work on anonymous tips this link below is proof , it is also proof that they do not always wait to check the police report as Eric stated in a response to an earlier post of mine. Here is this story link..http://www.marshallnews.com/story/1797243.html

This story happened mid-day, was covered ,and written all that day without waiting on a police report to verify all facts. This shows they could have sent a staff writer to the Hab Center that morning but chose not to.

If this had been a staff member abusing/assaulting a client this paper would have been all over it that day. Myself and those that currently work there and others are just tired of the double standard.

-- Posted by devildog92 on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 2:26 PM

Charles and Norma Jean Ferguson have touched the lives of a whole bunch of people in this town. They are each a very positive influence. Criticize if you must, but Mr. Ferguson is worthy of the front page. Like I said, another newspaper could be started. Why not do it? Those that consider themselves an investigator can ferret out the stories they deem worthy.

-- Posted by red dog on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 1:53 PM

Darned if you do and darned if you don't. That is close to what I wanted to say. Newspapers are derelict if they don't substantiate their stories. Responsible editors don't print what isn't supported by facts. The majority of the bad things I hear about in Marshall are from the workplace and consist of facts and rumor and innuendo and assupmtions (yes the spelling is correct). If you have any information that bears investigating and are willing to come forward I am sure you will find the newspaper willing to go with it if you are willing to go with it. You can put your reputation on the line just like the paper.

I like feel-good stories. Mr. Ferguson is a feel-good story. Not that he especially feels good. Why does anyone think the Democrat should be an investigative newspaper full of bad news? The paper fulfills what the community has indicated it wants. If that puts the complainers in the minority, there is always room for another publication in town. Why shucks, Sweet Springs has two publications.

-- Posted by red dog on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 1:36 PM

It seems as though the MDN does not want to cover stories that may upset some. The "nice" stories is not what the people of Marshall or Saline County are wanting to read! Most are wanting a mix of nice and dramatic. A lot of court proceedings take place and are never reported on.

The Sedalia Democrat covers more of the issues than our own hometown paper does. Please do some investigative reporting!

-- Posted by yomomma on Sun, Jan 8, 2012, at 12:25 PM

Thank you both for your comments. No disrespect was taken in any way from your replies. To born-n-raised .. You make very valid points on the future of this facility . I am a former employee of this facility and know full well the dangers and risks involved with working there. But the community deserves to know that the abuse is not one sided at these facilities like the media lead you to believe. I just feel the ball has been dropped by this media source to change the status quo on theses situations. To the 26er.. I know it was only one client but my fingers hit the wrong keys during my moment of anger while typing that comment. I just want to thank both of you for giving your opinion!! The community needs to know the dangers these employees face everyday even if awareness is all we achieve by these posts !!

-- Posted by devildog92 on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 11:57 PM

devildog92 - may I correct you? "...attacked by clients...", as plural. These 2 females were attacked by the SAME, who also has done it before, as well as damaging at least 2 houses in the community. Not saying there are not others, but just to make a point that it is obvious employees are not given means to protect if one person can continue to do the same things over and over. It has NOT always been this way, and anyone who worked there even 5 years ago knows this. Employees have been stripped of the methods of intervention that will ensure these things do NOT happen. And these methods were used in a NONABUSIVE way. It is a free-for-all, and until the administrative staff wake up, get involved, and come back to the senses that they all once had (as they have worked there more than a couple of decades) these things WILL continue to happen (unless everyone quits and leaves the administration by themselves to deal with everything!). And there is no disrespect intended here, JUST HONESTY.

-- Posted by the26er on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 11:23 PM

Most who are familiar with MHC know that its days are numbered, as people are being moved out of there at a very fast rate. For the most part, the people that continue to reside at MHC are there because they are not safe enough to live in the community at this time. With that being said, it is obvious that some of the people who remain at MHC are dangerous. Nobody wants to go to work every day to face the prospect of getting assaulted, but if you are going to provide direct care at MHC, then you know that this is a very real possibility. Employees are not really provided with any means to protect themselves and they certainly are not allowed to defend themselves; to do so would result in certain termination.

devildog92, it's not the newspaper's fault for not reporting on these incidents. Since the perpetrators are developmentally disabled, the prosecuting attorney isn't going to file charges. There would be nothing for the paper to report.

I don't presume to have the answers, but the current environment at MHC is poisonous and I pity everyone involved, employees and residents alike.

-- Posted by born-n-raised on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 10:20 PM

Eric,

I can appreciate your willingness to appear that you are looking into a story when the truth is ..your not! This news paper does not want to cover reports about this place unless it is staff committing the abuse. I do not know how many times i have seen little 2-4 line stories about Marshall Police called to this or that situation without having gotten all the facts or a police report, saying more to follow. You guys seemed to chase every ambulance or police scanner call that comes across. But when employees get physically assaulted at their workplace to the point of needing 911 and police notified nothing is written. How many time have you written a story with the statement "still under/pending investigation"? THESE INCIDENCES ARE NO DIFFERENT !!!

-- Posted by devildog92 on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 8:16 PM

I hope this is the appropriate place for this subject but i guess i will find out if i get deleted again. In the past week there have been two female staff attacked by clients at the Marshall Hab Center and subsequently sent to the emergency room because of these attacks. 911 and Marshall Police were called and on scene at the first incident but not the second. So my question to Eric Crump is ..Why has none of this been in the paper? This is noteworthy news is it not?

-- Posted by devildog92 on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 4:04 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
If law enforcement determines a crime was committed and charges are filed, it will be in the paper. We will also seek the police reports on any recent incidents, but the fact that we haven't published a story yet doesn't mean we won't. And I can't guarantee that we will. We have to check out the situation as best we can first.

Ok so my comment got deleted where it had previously been posted. Maybe that wasn't the appropriate place, hope this is.

The MHC is a place that affects many people in this community, and we want to speak and be heard. There have been a recent "rash" of attacks on staff by consumers severe enough to require 911 and an EMS response. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, and it saddens me to say that it probably won't be the last.

As a former employee you may consider my view bias. However disgruntled I may be, these events are fact. We have all seen articles on staff abusing consmers. But never the other way round. It's bad enough that the management seems not to care about thier employees(as they are pressured into keeping quiet),but to recieve the same treatmeant from the community that we are a part of hurts.

Please understand I/we are not trying to stir the pot, we just want to be heard.

-- Posted by tactlessmonkey on Sat, Jan 7, 2012, at 4:03 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
This is a better place, yes. Thanks!

a tractor trailer overturns on 240 thursday afternoon, blocking traffic just north of the arrow rock exit for about two hours and there is not even a mention or picture of it? i got held up in it, would sure like to know what happened.

-- Posted by aikman8 on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 7:34 PM

Eric, ask about the text messages from staff to student!

-- Posted by yomomma on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 5:23 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Will do.

Yomomma, has the misconduct been brought to the attention of authorities?

-- Posted by red dog on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 4:04 PM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
It has. I contacted Jeff Kramer right before the holidays and plan to meet with him soon to see if we can learn more about the situation.

Yomama- what drama are you referring to?

-- Posted by luvthoseowls on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 3:07 PM

Slater - Can't beat the guys from Asleep at the Wheel!

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Fri, Jan 6, 2012, at 11:00 AM

"Slater" I don't actually smoke.

-- Posted by tigger2118 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 9:07 PM

MHS has drama! Check it out!

-- Posted by yomomma on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 8:27 PM

Here's your anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIN8MmMlo...

-- Posted by Slater on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:39 PM

Aw, shucks, tigger. Of course, that's my goal :)

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:37 PM

I'm sure gas is the same way Kathy, thanks for making this easy.

-- Posted by tigger2118 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:31 PM

tigger2118: Cigs are dirt cheap in Missouri. Try buying them in Illinois ($9.67 per pack), or New York ($11 per pack). Take a look:

http://www.theawl.com/2011/06/what-a-pac...

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:26 PM

Not only is gas high in this town, so are my cigs! Over 5 dollars a pack here! This is getting ridiculous.

-- Posted by tigger2118 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 5:32 PM

Yawn.

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 2:54 PM

Gee, I thought the top U.S. export is a toss-up between jobs and cigarettes.

-- Posted by Slater on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 11:09 AM

Sorry for the typos the laptop is slowly dying of old age

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 10:28 AM

Are top export in dollar amount export is fuel we make 100's of billion of dollars on this. If we will up our reserves with gas prices would drop. Whatst they are saying is the demand is high and low reserves. Its a common sense thing don't export something you need.

-- Posted by Jason1969 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 10:26 AM

C'mon, folks. Since Iran threatened to shut off the oil supply out of the Persian Gulf our esteemed and gracious "job creators" at big oil companies decided it was a good excuse to jack the price at the pump.

Capitalism and world politics in the 21st century are now totally intertwined. Wait until folks finally figure out there is not an unlimited energy supply to be had. It will not be pretty.

We pretty much already showed the world that we are willing to invade another country and kill off thousands just to make sure we can get plenty of gas.

Better get busy figuring out how to make my share of the money out of all this turmoil and idiotic politics instead of wasting time blogging! I guess I am not a very good capitalist. Dang.

-- Posted by Smart Dog on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 10:19 AM

Gas was still 3.17 this morning. :)

-- Posted by speedfingers on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 9:56 AM

One factor in the gas price spike might be the end of the ethanol study, though that probably doesn't account for the size of the price jump.

http://usat.ly/u1rD7l

-- Posted by Eric Crump on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 9:48 AM

Oh, Kathy are you not the pot calling the kettle black, because since you complain about people that bring this topic up just about every time they do?

You know there is little point in repeating the same complaints we see here so often. We can do without the umpteenth version of you conplaining about people talking about changing gas prices.

Your turn :o

-- Posted by Gal66 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 9:43 AM

Maybe we need a separate blog for people commenting on what we need a separate blog for. I've always found it annoying when people tell others what they should or should not talk about.

By the way, no Kathy, a 25 cent jump in the price of gas is not a normal occurrence. Usually it is more gradual. That was in fact the main topic of everyone as they came to work yesterday. No surprise that the conversation extended to this blog.

-- Posted by Philemon on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 8:26 AM

I would like to address the lady in the red car that I saw yesterday while I was backing out of my driveway and now this morning there you are AGAIN digging through my trash.

Whether you are "recycling" or trying to get identification information I don't know. I would suggest to you to come to my door next time you would like to take something. I would be glad to help you if I can.

-- Posted by 1OFTHEGALS on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 8:06 AM

Oh, Gal66, I am perfectly well aware that my saying anything at all does not make it so. I am not, in fact, suggesting that gas prices are not important. I'm saying that since the average person cannot do much about it, there is little point in repeating the same complaints we see here so often. We have a separate blog for other topics (religion and politics) that others find tedious or annoying, since they, too, are arguments and discussions with no way to "settle" the issue. In my very humble and unasked-for opinion, we can do without the umpteenth version of changing gas prices. Your turn.

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:59 AM

Kathy, I have to tell you this just because you don't think gas prices are important enough to have a little space on this blog does not make it so.

So with that said why don't you find something else to complain about?

-- Posted by Gal66 on Thu, Jan 5, 2012, at 7:11 AM

St Louis gas jumped from $3.05.9 this morning to $3.28.9 this evening. You have a bargain at $3.17.

-- Posted by TerryM on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 8:45 PM

Eric, I think we need a separate blog for people commenting on the rise and fall of gas prices. They go up, they go down. That's how gas prices have always performed. Repeating that information will not change it. Let's find something else to complain about, shall we?

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 8:43 PM

Gas was $2.92 at Casey's this morning at 6:15am. On my drive Boonville has been in the $2.95 to $2.99 for the last three weeks.

-- Posted by snoozes on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 5:17 PM

it was 2.92 at our Murphy's last night and then 3.17 this morning.

-- Posted by speedfingers on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 3:57 PM

Gas 2.95.9 in Boonville thos morning.

Passed on Murphy's. Others in the area were at 2.95.9

-- Posted by CWilli on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 3:53 PM

I thought the gas price surge was pretty swell as well WTF......

My jaw literally dropped when I passed Murphy's this morning.

-- Posted by speedfingers on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM

It's so nice to see things back to normal and gas prices surging 25 cents overnite.

-- Posted by What the f...... on Wed, Jan 4, 2012, at 2:27 PM

Very good point Saline gran- the tree owners should get their part done to protect their property. Why do marshallites think their trees should be trimmed to their expectations for free? This is Marshall for goodness sake! Where your water gets shut off if you are delinquent $1- just saying.

-- Posted by nomad on Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 11:28 PM

I hadn't thought about that aspect before SalineGran. Could it be the fragile balance in Marshall has been upset? It is not wise to mess with Mother Nature. Then again, perhaps this will start the evolution process whereby trees will mature on only one side, making them ideal to plant around power lines. Then Marshallites can proudly say "you saw it here first".

-- Posted by red dog on Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 8:52 PM

Has anyone wondered what will happen when the wind blows with icy limbs all on one side of the trees with nothing to balance the other side?????

We lost a probably 80 year old tree and garage roof a couple of years ago after the same type of trimming.

Just sayin

-- Posted by SalineGran on Tue, Jan 3, 2012, at 5:40 PM

Pretty good timing, I see, Mr. Editor! :)

-- Posted by Slater on Sun, Jan 1, 2012, at 2:10 PM

Happy New Year!

-- Posted by Eric Crump on Sun, Jan 1, 2012, at 12:02 AM


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