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The Shepherd's Heart: Anonymously anonymous

Thursday, May 7, 2009

"If I had a hammer, I'd" ...
No. That's not right.

"I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night" ...
No. That's not it either.

"We are stardust, we are golden, 
We are two billion year old carbon" ...
Nope. That's not it either.

"Well, they take all the trees and they put 'em in a tree museum" ...
No. Something's just not right here.

"Where have all the flowers gone?" ...
Sorry. I must have gotten lost in the moment.

It's been a long time since my left-wing liberal, peace rally organizing, chukka boot (with a secret pocket at the ankle) wearing, parrot-head sing along, environmentalist, inner-self slipped out in such a dramatic and profound way.

I guess I should let my right-wing fanatic side take over. Then all will be as it should be.

Or maybe I should call forth my "I'm OK -- You're OK" middle of the road, compromise your own beliefs, live and let live self. That way if anyone got offended by what I had to say, I could just apologize profusely and we could agree to disagree and all would be well with the world once again.

But then again, what would be accomplished by such a neutral (and not necessarily peaceful) stance?

The truth is, we never know what's on the inside of others. Just because someone is pro-life and pro-second amendment doesn't mean they don't care about others, or the environment, or the nation, or the freedoms of others. For example, most pro-lifers I know are the one's leading the fight to retain the freedom of speech many who disagree with them take for granted.

Most folks are very complex. Few are one dimensional. We are all made up of layers from our upbringing, our environment, and a plethora of life lessons and experiences.

Some, obviously, are not very multi-faceted and need to bludgeon others -- even if it's just verbally -- to feel good about themselves. In my opinion, such folks need extensive counseling. They need someone to reach out to them to help them find some sense of worth; some sense of self. They need someone to help them get rid of all their insecurities.

But alas, we will never be able to help them because we don't know who they are.

They hide their insecurities behind on-line monikers and funny sounding log-in names. They are, when all is said and done, anonymously anonymous.


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I find it amusing that Klop and Cosa Nostra were the first two posters to take Stewart's words to heart and respond with great vigor. Perhaps you do protest too much? That is the problem with debating and discussing with many, not all, but many people who differ in opinion with conservative, constitutionalist, libertarian view points. Once the debate gets past the first response and counter-response, they feel threatened because they do not have morals, principals and true heart-felt beliefs to base their opinions on and therefore feel as if they have to attack with mean and harsh words.

I am not speaking about religious morals and values specifically either, so dont go attacking me and saying that I am some religious freak, as has been posted on other message threads. I am speaking of values, morals, ethics that were and ARE the fundamental core structure of our Constitution and every day interaction. Specifically, I am talking about ethics and morals that are taught in every liberal and state college in freshman year ethics class. Cicero, Locke, Aristotle, Niche ...

The point of this article was to merely point out that people who cannot debate and discuss without personal attacks should maybe reconsider their words and instead of attacking, attempt to actually learn why they believe something so that they can have an intelligent conversation without resorting to putting down people, which only serves to make you sound ignorant and insincere.

If the shoe fit, then you probably already have two pair.

-- Posted by mrxray on Sun, May 24, 2009, at 12:43 PM

Klop,

You wrote the following statement above, "You say Mr. Stewart is couragous. I say only a coward attacks people through a blog."

In your last respsonse I saw that you were once attacking Mr. Stewart and his daughter. I think that you should look again at what you wrote or know that you have become a hypocrite.

-- Posted by mulerose on Wed, May 20, 2009, at 1:52 PM

Okay, did I take this wrong-- after reading the column and then the comments-- my take on this column is that Mr. Shepard was merely saying that those that hurt others with harsh words thru online means need counseling -- and if that is the case-- he is just saying BE NICE

-- Posted by workingmom on Mon, May 18, 2009, at 12:50 PM

Speaking of bad publicity, youtube decided to ban some major Alex Jones channels a few days ago. Alex had millions of hits on these channels and youtube took them down. It's going to backfire on them and just give Alex more publicity. A new AJ documentary, an extended interview with Aaron Russo, was uploaded today for an hour or so before it was taken down. I got to part 3 of 14 before it disappeared and the hits were at 64,000.

Here's a 1 1/2 minute trailer if it hasn't been removed..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woPvjaS-H...

Russo goes in-depth for 90 minutes about the I.R.S. & taxes, the fraudulent Federal Reserve, Aaron's attempted recruitment into the Council on Foreign Relations by Nick Rockefeller, plans to stage terror attacks & invade foreign countries, schemes to force RFID microchips on the population under a cashless control grid, accounts of his personal life, his development as a music and film producer and much more

http://www.infowars.com/aaron-russo-leav...

-- Posted by Third Child on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 4:57 PM

"even bad publicity is publicity"

The attack was juvenile.

If anyone gets bad publicity, it would be those two..

-- Posted by Third Child on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 4:07 PM

Hey Cheetah -

"Well we're big rcok singers we got golden fingers and we're loved everywhere we go ..."

HAHAHA!

From what I can tell - that maybe was once a dream of his (the "cover of the Rollin' Stone" I mean).

Now he'd probably prefer his picture on the cover of US News & World Report! -

Or maybe even Charisma! magazine.

Gotta take a lot of this with a chuckle.

pr

-- Posted by circuitrider on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 2:46 PM

Hi Folks

Just an outside observation ...

It appears that Stewart was not saying that those who disagree with him need therapy.

I would assume people disagree with him all the time. (He is rather outspoken.) And I'm sure that some may even disagree with him to his face.

I believe he was saying (albeit somewhat sarcastically) that those who choose to personally attack others (not just their opinions) from behind assumed names on this type of message board may have a few issues they need to deal with. And I believe it was all rather tongue-in-cheek.

Humor. A bit of levity. Get it?

Fact is - he probably shouldn't have even taken the bait and let himself be drawn into the fray.

But he did. Maybe he'll learn from his mistake.

In the end we get back to the point several have made on this site - it's all just opinion.

And everyone is entitled to their own.

Let's get past this, shall we?

pr

-- Posted by circuitrider on Wed, May 13, 2009, at 8:10 AM

If you believe that the comments were aimed at you, that is your business. I still don't understand how grown people feel the need to defend themselves using insults and by tearing people down. Believe it or not there are ways to critisize without personally attacking someone. Regardless of your perception of Mr. Stewart's writing, you seem to personalize your attacks, not addressing the issues as much as trying to land that last "stinging blow" of the fight. I fully support your right to disagree, I just find that your manner, leaves much to be desired. I believe you radiate what you think, and that life is all about perspective. If you disagree with someone, at least do so in a respectful manner. You get what you give, bro.

-- Posted by angelas1986 on Tue, May 12, 2009, at 1:40 PM

If you believe in freedom and the right to protect yourself and your family you are now classified as a right wing extremist.

For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, read this information on the direction things are going in this country:

http://www.infowars.com/house-bill-aims-...

Also watch this taxpayer funded video of the 'kind of people' that are plotting to attack America. The video in this article was made for the Kansas City market. They are running it quite often on TV and the same type of video is being run in many other areas of the country.

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-funded-video...

-- Posted by Third Child on Tue, May 12, 2009, at 11:40 AM

There is no double standard. I bashed his column, and he implied that me and Cosa Nostra needed therapy. It seems like Stewart is more than a little defensive.

I was rough on him, but it was on topic. I've never heard a person actually say that those with opposing viewpoints need therapy; I truely have not encountered such arrogance before.

He's probably just bitter because his "fans" can be counted on two hands, with a few fingers to spare. Really, the only time anyone cares about his column is when he is attacking the lifestyles of others.

(That may seem uncalled for but I believe Mr. Stewart has opened a Pandora's Box with his comments)

You say Mr. Stewart is couragous. I say only a coward attacks people through a blog.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

-- Posted by klop on Tue, May 12, 2009, at 10:44 AM

I was simply pointing out the oxymoronic accusations and double standards so prominently on display here. It's easy to talk big, and make bold assertions when you can hide behind a computer monitor. "Yay" for freedom of speech.

-- Posted by angelas1986 on Tue, May 12, 2009, at 12:42 AM

Angela, I agree with your first and last paragraphs. The other stuff may only provoke further discouragement...

I will also agree with klop that Mr. Stewart's evaluation of the DHS document may not be the fairest evaluation of the document. As was stated in last week's comments, he's not a politician. But obviously he enjoys writing the column and plenty of others enjoy reading it. Nothing wrong with this.

Beyond all that, though, is this: No one here is writing or rewriting policy; if we were to act on such a desire, it would not be posted on a newspaper column nor blogged in responses to said column...

I am glad this ruckus caught my eye; I think I'll have a leisurely read on that document, Mr. Stewart, thank you for sharing it with us.

-- Posted by somewhere out there on Mon, May 11, 2009, at 11:28 PM

That means a lot coming from Stewart's DAUGHTER! You're not biased at all!

-- Posted by klop on Mon, May 11, 2009, at 11:17 PM

If the shoe fits, get offended? It seems to me that the insults and the mud-slinging are the very things that keep people distracted from the real issues. Paranoid or not, there are changes taking place in our government that are not to the betterment of our nation, and they are definitely not benefiting "the people."

..."Some, obviously, are not very multi-faceted and need to bludgeon others -- even if it's just verbally -- to feel good about themselves. In my opinion, such folks need extensive counseling."

I see no personal references to anyone here, just a generalization, and Mr.Stewart, indeed, stating HIS OPINION. If you consider yourself so special as to be singled out by Mr. Stewarts writing, perhaps you do need professional help. Although I'm not sure what the commonly accepted treatment is for someone with an over inflated ego.

Intelligient people do not point fingers and use insults to make their points, I challenge you to back up your posts with intelligient non-personal replies, and gain some of the respect many people seem to have for Mr. Stewart.

I applaud Mr. Stewart's courage in writing his opinion in a forum where he is repeatedly ridiculed and insulted. He doesn't hesitate to put his name behind what he stands for...kudos to him, regardless of his opinion. Keep up the good work dad, while freedom of speech still exists, however diluted it is.

-- Posted by angelas1986 on Mon, May 11, 2009, at 6:48 PM

HAHAHAHAHA....I think your column is garbage and that means I need professional help?

I think its funny that someone who writes an opinion blurb for the Marshall Democrat has such an inflated self worth.

Mr. Stewart, you are everything that is wrong with churches today. When did pastors become so judgemental? I can only hope that others involved with church proceedings have a bit more patience that yourself.

I attacked your opinion, not only because I disagree with it, but because it was poorly argued. I said you should stop writing your column because, in my opinion, it is subpar.

For you to attach your name to something that not only attacks people, but makes light of those who really need therapy, is disgraceful. Picking apart an argument that has more holes than swiss cheese hardly qualifies me for "extensive counseling"

I'm guessing that you must be friends with the MDN staff,otherwise they would have no interest in your "writing"

One question for Mr. Crump: Do believe its good for business, especially in this economic climate, to allow Stewart to make personal attacks on the readers. There is difference between attacking the opinions and attacking people, but apparently you do not care.

Mr. Stewart, I respectfully await your response and I hope you have the class to show some respect from this point forward.

-- Posted by klop on Mon, May 11, 2009, at 9:59 AM
Response by Eric Crump/Editor:
Mr. Stewart writes a long-standing opinion column that many readers appreciate. As is always the case with opinion writing, some people disagree with the views he presents. You've taken the time to voice your opposition. Thank you. (I would, however, suggest you take another look at the definition of the word "respectfully.")


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