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Sweet Springs man charged with stalkingWednesday, November 12, 2008
Raymond S. Nold, 41, of Sweet Springs, was arrested Monday, Nov. 10, and charged with the class A misdemeanors of stalking and harassment.
According to a report from Saline County Sheriff's Department, Nold was taken into custody after a former girlfriend reported several instances in which Nold allegedly threatened or confronted her, her son and another acquaintance, including dozens of phone calls. Nold was released after posting a $2,000 bond. He is scheduled to appear before Judge James T. "Tut" Bellamy in Division 6 court at 9 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 19. Contact Kathy Fairchild at Comments  Note: The nature of the Internet makes it impractical for our staff to review every comment. If you feel that a comment is offensive, please Login or Create an account first, and then you will be able to flag a comment as objectionable. Please also note that those who post comments on marshallnews.com may do so using a screen name, which may or may not reflect a website user's actual name. Readers should be careful not to assign comments to real people who may have names similar to screen names. Refrain from obscenity in your comments, and to keep discussions civil, don't say anything in a way your grandmother would be ashamed to read.
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You know this is completely irrelevant, but, I thought I might add. Not long ago a family member of mine ended his life and for some reason chose to make a public display of doing so. He was not a drug user, owned his own sucessful business, and was the father of three beautiful young children. He and his wife were separated, and she had been seeing someone else. Arrangements were made for them to meet at her workplace to pick up the kids for father's day weekend. When he arrived at the meeting place - any clue what she did???? Police were called to the location on a report of STALKING. She then sent him a text to his phone from inside telling him that he wasn't getting the kids for the weekend. Next thing you know...the police showed up and he's in trouble for STALKING!! By the end of the evening a man was dead and children left without a father.
It's a tricky thing when you get into stalking. In this case, she requested that he come there. When it all comes down to it, it's one persons word against another persons, which becomes difficult. I'm not at all trying to imply that in case the accuser brought this on,(I don't know anyone involved in this case) but, in some cases I think women use the "I'm being stalked" allegation to trump the other person involved.
I think it has something to do with womens tendencies to be passive agressive.
just my thoughts.
Not everything remains on casenet. Suppose a person makes accusation of stalking and files paperwork. If the accuser doesn't show up for court, that accusation record drops off casenet. If the accuser is found to be without grounds for an order of protection, that accusation drops off casenet. Therefore, should a person be inclined to be overly emotional or perhaps use "abuse by proxy" (having law enforcement and judge punish someone for you), it wouldn't always appear on casenet. So you can't use casenet to show a pattern of habitual accusation. You would have to do a different kind of search through paper documents - if the court keeps them. Just having to go to court to answer an accusation of stalking is an effective form of harassment. Being accused in the news media if the accusation is not true is an effective form of harassment. It is hard to judge these things from the outside without knowing the parties and circumstances. If you know the parties, possibly your comments won't stay on this forum.
Sorry, MDN, I guess I shouldn't have posted his first name, didn't realize that was a problem. And to Amanda, just because it isn't on casenet doesn't mean he hasn't been previously arrested for stalking and harassing the same victim. I can assure you that he has, but Mr. Nold didn't do it then either.
Stalking is a funny thing to prove. Even if it never happened. All you have to do is follow someone to a business, go to the adjoining business, or one across the street and call the cops. Sure, they'll see the other person in close proximity. And GEEZZ, there's the stalker.
Do that enough time, and you can probably get somebody in trouble. Who are the cops gonna believe.
It's funny how one person can create so many stalkers ink there life,
Read between the lines, or believe in the tooth fairy. LOL
cutler06, you are totaly inaccurate in your post. This is the first time Mr. Nold has ever been arrested for or charged with any thing of this sort. If you were smart enough to research your information before posting at say, a site like casenet you would see the only entries are the ones relating to the situation with the female accuser. This may also help keep you out of trouble from commiting slander.
Yes, I believe the accused party in this story was pursued and contacted several times in the last year by the female who filed the complaint.
There is a police report involving the accused and the accuser in this case, from an earlier date. The female accuser patitioned for a temporary restraining order and the folowing day violated her own restraining order by following the accused party around town and making repeated phone calls to the accused. The accused party drove into a place of business with the female accuser in pursuit. His cellular phone was ringing with her on the line simultaneously. She then pursued him into the establishment intent on causing an incident. Much to her surprise, inside the building two police officers were waiting and observed the entire thing. This sure sounds like the accused male is the one being stalked and harassed to me. The strange thing is that one party involved does not abuse the system and is about to be a victom of it.
The tactic often used is to repeatedly contact, irritate and manipulate the accused party until the accused, makes a mistake and unwittingly gives the person some sort of evidence that can be distorted for the purpose of abusing the legal system to injure the (often male) accused party. It is just a game for the person filing the complaint but often has dire, undeserved consequences for the accused party whose worst flaws were to be foolish and naive.
News Across, your post was long. So is mine.
My interest in stalking behavior is personal. I was stalked -- before stalking laws. Then you had to prove specific crimes to get relief. I am female. My first stalker (I was very young) was a deranged female tolerated by the community until she tried to kill me. Saline County court records on this probably still exist. Second stalking years later was by a male performing classic maneuvers on me and other women. Police finally caught him trespassing nude in the house of another woman .
My latest misadventure involved getting help from a domestic abuse organization where I learned the term "abuse by proxy". This is when the abuser "recruits friends, colleagues, mates, family members, the authorities, institutions, neighbors, the media, teachers (law enforcement) - in short, third parties - to do his bidding." This happened to me and members of my family. It is particularly frightening when the abuser uses law enforcement and courts to harass and threaten. Professionals who are supposed to protect and serve are manipulated to extend the vindictive power of the abuser. Male and female abusers/stalkers use "abuse by proxy". However, females are effective because they can play the victim role.
I've known several men with women abusers ruining their lives and careers with false police reports and prosecution after standard stalking failed. I looked extensively at documents, court records, transcripts, etc., to make sure friendship wasn't fooling me. False reports are not punished in the Midwest, as a Canadian friend informed me, so there is no penalty. Several judges in Pettis County are aware and have taken training so tax dollars are not wasted on frivolous "abuse by proxy".
Given my experiences with stalking by different genders, I'd say that while you are generally correct, you are judgmental on a case you know little about. I don't wish a stalker on you or your friends, but the experience is educational.
If "abuse by proxy" ever hits you, you will be defenseless. At least when someone comes after you with as weapon, you are allowed to defend.
I find stalking cases very interesting.
I remember when states first started passing stalking laws. The state legislatures had a real problem trying to craft laws that would protect people from stalking and yet not violate the civil rights of the alleged stalker. Its a fine line and a difficult task.
Most stalking cases I am familiar with read a lot like this one -- usually a male stalker, upset with the end of a former relationship, and attempting to force his way back into the former girlfriend or wife's love life.
Often times such behavior is the result of a psycological condition referred to as "Separation Anxiety." Surprisingly, these types of conditions are fairly easy to treat. A mild anti-depressant or an anti-anxiety medication prescribed by a physician and followed for 3 to 6 months is usually enough to treat the condition successfully. In fact, many patients suffering from Separation Anxiety report almost immediate relief from the symptoms of this disease from the moment they begin the treatment.
Perhaps the real problem is that very few folks outside of the medical community are aware of this medical/psycological condition or its symptoms. So instead of seeing their general practioner, most victims of Separation Anxiety attempt to deal with the symptoms themselves. In some cases the symptoms become manifestly extreme and sometimes result in stalking charges.
It seems to me that a brief visit to one's physician is a lot cheaper than the cost of a lawyer, court costs, fines, and possible jail time. I wish we could make awarness of this condition and the simplicity of the treatment widely available to the general public. Then perhaps we wouldn't need stalking laws.