Speak Out: Las Vegas shooting

Posted by desert Rat on Mon, Oct 2, 2017, at 1:29 PM:

This is a very sad day in Las Vegas.

Replies (16)

  • For sure. Wonder if they'll ever find the motive, I sure hope so. Last I heard ISIS took credit but got no proof to back up the claim. Sometimes people just want to watch the world burn.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Tue, Oct 3, 2017, at 12:05 AM
  • We in Las Vegas do not like being the number one worst mass shooting site but we hope that we are never number two.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 1:44 AM
  • It will happen sometime, just hope it's not for many years.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 1:06 PM
  • Is that all the 2 most prolific posters here have to say about this? Don't you have your talking points solidified yet?

    Google is censoring enquiries on youtube for '2 shooters las vegas' 'multiple shooters vegas' and so on. Yahoo news today has a commentary about false news and a picture of one who can not be named without triggering the mind controlled here.

    But physics doesn't lie so much. There seems to be evidence of more than one shooter. Audio reveals 2 shooters, and at different distances. Who will win this information war? Who is the real fake news? Will the public ever know the truth?

    Old S, why do you think this will happen again? The media says that they can't even determine why this was done. What is the information source for your statement?

    -- Posted by JBlck on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 3:18 PM
  • I'm not big into conspiracy theories.

    It will happen again because as long as there have been humans there have been people who enjoy killing other people. I don't see why that would ever change. The only reason that's needed is one sufficient enough for that person.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 5:39 PM
  • You and DRat are both unquestioning fans of *approved* conspiracy theories. Your 'thinking' has been trained to accept approved stories, no matter what.

    The term 'conspiracy theory' was weaponized by the CIA after JFK was killed in broad daylight in Dallas Texas.

    You believe the official conspiracy theory about that, right? Magic bullets and all?

    -- Posted by JBlck on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 6:54 PM
  • You still believe there is a magic bullet? Have you ever actually looked up research on jfk or just watched the movie? The seats in the limo where not ligned up like normal car, was clean straight path.

    By definition conspiracy theories are theories that go against the official account. So no official accounts aren't conspiracy. Flight 800 was an accident, RFK was lone nut job. Oswald killed JFK, area 51 is just military base for military not aliens. Roosevelt didn't let harbor happen and 9/11 wasn't an inside job.

    Now I do love hearing new theories and hearing conspiracy theories. So if you got new evidence I'm all for it, but I've heard most of it before and am very prepared to counter point.

    So, what theories do you have? If you got new stuff I'll be very excited to look into it. I want conspiracies to be true,they just never do.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Tue, Oct 10, 2017, at 11:51 PM
  • OS, you really like being lied to, don't you? Your mind is enslaved. You lie to yourself when you say it is not.

    It's hard to teach old dogs new tricks, so like others who have tried to converse with you, it seems useless to try but to keep us entertained how about you explain how the 9-11 towers fell at the accelerated speed of gravity without something to remove resistance below the point of impact? Can you understand the question/problem of physics?

    Also, Building 7 was not hit by a plane and it also fell at the free fall speed of gravity about 20 minutes after the BBC reported it fell, the same day. Please explain these 3 times in one day that physics lies and the official conspiracy theory is your truth.

    There was a youtube video that had millions of views that listed the "official" 9/11 conspiracy facts but all I can get on the new search algorithms is a message that shows they are hiding the video. They don't want mind slaves like you to see anything that might cause you to actually start thinking on your own. ... Google Sorry...

    We're sorry...

    ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.

    See Google Help for more information.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Wed, Oct 11, 2017, at 8:45 PM
  • Yes I understand the issue, it would be odd if the building fell at the speed of free fall due to it collapsing from top to bottom. You would only expect free fall if the bottom gave out so there was no resistance to the top coming down. This obviously was not the case in the twin towers. Not sure where you got that info, unless you've only watched things like Loose Change. Which by the way is on like it's 5 or 6th version right now because they keep having to change it when their ideas get debunked so they have to remove them and make up more.

    http://debunking911.com/freefall.htm

    Here is the information regarding Tower 7, including the BBC report. Honestly nobody knows for sure why the BBC reported tower 7 fell before it did. Most likely answer is they got word that engineers had said it was going to fall (we know people where warned before it did) so they just jumped the gun on it. I would assume if it was some conspiracy to be blown up and leak a collapse story to the press you wouldn't do it with a reporter on site with the building behind them. If that was part of some plan, than I have to question the intelligence of the people with those plans that they could do anything right.

    http://debunking911.com/pull.htm

    Like I said those are both facts that have been debunked for over a decade. Just google tower fall speed and there are all kinds of sites and videos proving that one false, same with tower 7.

    While movies like Loose Change are interesting and spin an entertaining story they fall apart pretty quick when they say that planes may have not even been used. Especially at pentagon, despite fact they have video of the plane impact and plane parts scattering the area.

    If you think that any of the data and discussions are incorrect I'd love to know where you get the evidence to prove you claims so I can review those as well. As I said, I find conspiracy theories very fascinating.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:27 AM
  • -- Posted by JBlck on Thu, Oct 12, 2017, at 8:27 PM
  • So I have sites that say it was terrorist plane attacks and the buildings fell do the damage caused by this. You have sites that say it was an inside job and the buildings where blown up from the inside.

    So what is the best way to verify which side is the correct side? Which way is the best to verify which is the most likely scenario if everyone can't agree on the facts?

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 8:26 AM
  • Old S, Your "debunking" link was debunked a decade ago. There is no comparison in the two sites that give you so much confusion.

    Also, I don't believe you have cogently studied the information available to you on the architects and engineers web site. http://www.ae911truth.org/

    If you were able to do so, you would have the answer to your question. You may not have the discernment or logic to understand the physics that prove the 'official' conspiracy theory has to be a lie. You may be so indoctrinated that you can't admit the truth even if you know the truth.

    I say keep trying. Stop rejecting information that you are programmed to reject or too afraid to research. If you can't do that then you will never know the truth about anything.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM
  • Getting back to the original thread, anyone can see how the "official" story is falling apart. There were multiple shooters and the lone wolf may be a complicit patsy. It's surely a lie that he made millions playing video poker. It's more likely he was laundering money through the casinos.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 3:32 PM
  • JBlck is trying to sell conspiracy theories, rr is trying to sell religion and I am buying neither.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Sat, Oct 14, 2017, at 7:37 PM
  • Didn't the guy make most of his money in real estate? I saw one story where tax form said he made $5 million in gambling income in 2015, but that doesn't show winnings. He could have won $5 million but lost $6 million, don't know.

    I haven't seen any irrefutable proof that there where multiple shooters or this guy was just a patsy who did nothing.

    I hadn't heard money laundering idea either. But that would be a hell of way to launder money, actually really smart. I googled it and found one random blog that had no proof other than what the writer thought made sense.

    Would love to look into that though, the guy is definitely odd.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 4:09 PM
  • -- Posted by desert Rat on Mon, Oct 16, 2017, at 6:18 PM

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