Vaccination

Posted by Smart Dog on Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 12:29 PM:

Ok, all you anti-vaxxers out there. The American Academy of Pediatrics has now joined the American College of Physicians and the American Medical Association in a call to ban Non-Medical Vaccination Exemptions.

http://parentingatoz.com/american-academy-pediatrics-joins-medical-groups-call-b...

So, folks out there, please vaccinate your children. All credible health organizations support childhood vaccinations.

Replies (34)

  • I can't think of one reason not too Smart Dog. Everyone in my family is vaccinated and that will continue on down the line.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM
  • Unsupported assertion: "All credible health organizations support childhood vaccinations."

    Did Oldschool call you a "not too Smart Dog"? That's what he said..

    Special report: Doctors report big pharma payouts for drug endorsements

    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20130311/special-report-doctors-rep...

    Why do Americans spend so much to be so unhealthy? Because big pharma makes money off of sick people. Healthy people are not good for business. Bill Gates wants the world vaccinated to reduce population. Google it.

    Read this

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-evils-of-big-pharma-exposed/5425382

    -- Posted by JBlck on Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 8:36 PM
  • "Globalresearch.ca" and Michel Chossudovsky are not credible sources for information regarding any topic except the wonders of extreme nationalism and contrarianism. I guess you haven't figured out yet that Chossudovsky is a Canadian equivalent of Alex Jones. Wait, maybe you have.

    The American Medical Association, The American College of Physicians, and The American Academy of Pediatrics are credible sources of information regarding health and they all support vaccination. None of them have anything to do with "big pharma".

    Are you trying to imply that Bill Gates wants to kill off kids in order to reduce the world population by vaccinating them? Really?

    How does one get to a point in life that they revel in utter cluelessness?

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Thu, Apr 20, 2017, at 7:34 AM
  • "How does one get to a point in life that they revel in utter cluelessness?".. strawdog

    I was wondering that about you sd. You should spend an hour or two with this as a start and try to figure out why you are such a sucker for supposed authority.

    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/how-we-are-being-brainwashed-manipu...

    Then dig a little into some vaccine information that isn't bought and paid for by big pharma. They don't make any money if they can't keep you sick.

    http://www.nvic.org/barbaraspeaksout.aspx

    -- Posted by JBlck on Thu, Apr 20, 2017, at 8:00 PM
  • I'm all for vaccines. I'll happily take the very small risk of side effect from the vaccine over the more likely risk of having the disease.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 8:17 AM
  • What, Oldschool? How could you possibly think that in light of the fact that a former Playboy model thinks her autistic kid is due to vaccination and with all that scientific research from Alex Jones?

    Been keeping an eye on the Illuminati, JB? Watch out for those lizard people. Thiomersal is the devil's work and juice boxes will make you gay, right?

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 11:00 AM
  • I'm sure neither of you have done an hours worth of your own research in the efficacy or safety of any type of vaccines. It goes to follow that neither have read an actual drug or vaccine insert.

    Yet, you are both self proclaimed experts.

    Maybe a job at snopes is in your future.

    Do either of you have cats?

    -- Posted by JBlck on Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 4:53 PM
  • I don't currently own a cat, but I have in the past.

    When did I ever claim to be an expert on vaccines?

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Fri, Apr 21, 2017, at 8:54 PM
  • "When did I ever claim to be an expert on vaccines?"

    Os, you espouse and promote injecting directly into the bloodstream of your own children (and those of everyone else in the world) with scores of dangerous drugs, viruses, chemicals.

    Now you are saying you are not an expert. Go figure.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Sat, Apr 22, 2017, at 2:53 PM
  • "The American Medical Association, The American College of Physicians, and The American Academy of Pediatrics are credible sources of information regarding health and they all support vaccination. None of them have anything to do with "big pharma"."

    You are kidding right?

    Another non-expert making unsupported assertions.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Sat, Apr 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM
  • "a former Playboy model thinks her autistic kid is due to vaccination" .. strawdog

    Any former Playboy model with a higher IQ than dirt that has her child's health destroyed immediately after vaccination has more credibility than anonymous trolls on the internet. (expert trolls?)

    How about the thousands of other parents that have the same devastating experience with their children after vaccination? Where is your strawdog argument against them?

    "and with all that scientific research from Alex Jones?"

    You are too scared and brainwashed against reading anything from Infowars.com

    What kind of credibility should we give your opinion?

    Who Is ALEX JONES AND What Is the Infowar? …and why should you care?

    https://www.infowars.com/about-alex-jones/

    -- Posted by JBlck on Sat, Apr 22, 2017, at 3:09 PM
  • I guess you consider yourself an expert on the human immune system and vaccination after all this time following Infowars and Global Research, eh, JB?

    Good one.

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 11:24 AM
  • Just because I'm not an expert doesn't mean I can't have an opinion or at least know some things. I know the odds of getting sick from a vaccine are less than the odds of getting the disease if you don't have the vaccine.

    It's like saying you could die on the operating table for open heart surgery so you won't do it. Yes that's true, people have died from having surgery. Nothing in this world is perfect. But you have greater odds of dying from a heart attack if you don't have the surgery.

    I will never understand why people worry so much about things with such long odds, yet care nothing about other items with much higher odds hurting them. People will say they are scared of cops killing them if they are black, yet they drive their car everyday. People won't get vaccines cause of what it could do, yet I'm sure you drove your car today. Something that has a much greater odds of killing or paralyzing you. So what is the real reason you don't like vaccines?

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 11:32 AM
  • http://www.bbc.com/news/health-39666132

    Perhaps JB should find some newspaper blogs in Kenya, Ghana, and Malawi and start warning all those people about the dangers of vaccines for Malaria.

    I guess we would all be better off if our kids all got Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Polio, Diphtheria, Pertussis, Tetanus,and Small Pox eh? Well, and throw in Malaria for those African kids. Hey, if they survive that without too many chronic health problems and physical deformities, they are set for life!

    Yeah, let's take society back to the days of the Black Death. That's the ticket.

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 12:21 PM
  • Jonas Salk is an American hero.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 4:43 PM
  • You all choose to be uninformed. It may be more than you are capable of to research and use critical thinking to explore the true issues instead of just repeating a programmed uninformed response.

    Do you all get flu shots every year? Ever done any research into efficacy and safety? Never mind answering the second question. I'm pretty sure I already know the answer.

    These links will also be a waste of time for you three.

    http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-1-2/

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/10/11/flu-vaccination.as...

    http://blog.drbrownstein.com/the-truth-about-the-flu-vaccine/

    Maybe someone else will start their own research here and then be better informed and make their own medical decisions instead being bullied into the forced injections these three geniuses advocate.

    Ending a baby's life in the womb is touted as a Constitutional right to 'choose' but the right to choose (or not)one or any vaccine seems to be a whole different concept. Right, Strawdog?

    -- Posted by JBlck on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 8:06 PM
  • DTP Vaccine Increases Mortality in Young Infants 5 to 10-Fold Compared to Unvaccinated Infants By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. -

    https://worldmercuryproject.org/dtp-vaccine-increases-mortality-young-infants-5-...

    -- Posted by JBlck on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM
  • JBlck,

    Crow about vaccines all you want but they are here to stay. Are you pro-disease? Are you a PETA person that thinks that germs, viruses and diseases have rights? Do you realize only a very small percentage of educated people agree with you? Keep posting; we can use the laughs.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Mon, Apr 24, 2017, at 10:51 PM
  • JB, were you vaccinated as a child?

    Also, how do you think that the world went from 350,000 people every year contracting polio to 37 in 2016?

    Magic? Chemtrails? Alex Jones Male Enhancement Supplements?

    It was the development of and widespread use of an effective polio vaccine.

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs114/en/

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Tue, Apr 25, 2017, at 8:25 AM
  • I ask you JB, if you have children have you got them vaccinated? If you don't have any, than would you if you did? I assume from your comments the answer to that is no because according to you the odds of them getting hurt/killed from the vaccine is not worth the risk.

    So lets take a look at the risk. The most used number for vaccine injury risk is .02% chance of being injured by a vaccine.

    Now do you let your children get in a car? Would you let your children get inside of a car? I assume your answer to that question is yes of course.

    So lets take a look at the risk. Most numbers show you have a 25% chance of being in a car wreck. That's 1,250 times more likely to be in a car wreck than get an injury from vaccine.

    Do you see why I question your motives in terms of your excuse of "protecting a child" when you'll put them at 1,250 times the risk on a daily basis?

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Tue, Apr 25, 2017, at 8:41 AM
  • -- Posted by Smart Dog on Fri, Apr 28, 2017, at 12:17 PM
  • -- Posted by Smart Dog on Mon, May 1, 2017, at 2:58 PM
  • https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/04/24/julie-and-the-boys-cdc-merck-vacci...

    excerpt:

    Kraling and Wlochowski assert several levels of Merck fraud:

    To achieve a slam-dunk success, Merck tested the effectiveness of the MMR vaccine against the version of the virus in the vaccine, rather than against the natural mumps virus a person would catch in the real world.

    Merck irrelevantly and deceptively added animal antibodies to the test results, thus giving the false appearance of strong human immune response to the vaccine.

    On top of that, Merck faked the quantitative results of the tests to which the animal antibodies had been added.

    Here is where these two Merck whistle blowers and Thompson, the CDC whistle blower, intersect:

    In 2004, according to a report I have seen, Thompson wrote a letter to CDC Director, Julie Gerberding, warning her that he was about to present troubling and sensitive data about the MMR vaccine at an upcoming conference on vaccines and autism.

    Thompson’s meaning was clear. He had found a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism.

    Gerberding never answered his letter, and Thompson’s presentation at that conference was canceled.

    Gerberding left the CDC in 2009.

    She moved on to become…

    The president of Merck Vaccines, the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine.

    Major media consider this a non-story, on the level of a can of overflowing garbage on a quiet street corner.

    Well, they have to consider it a non-story. If they reported it and pressed it and dug deep into it, they could fracture the pillars of the entire vaccine establishment.

    In order to get at the whole truth (or refute any of the charges raised in this article), Congress needs to hold hearings, and competent committee members need to question, at length, William Thompson, the two Merck whistle blowers, and Julie Gerberding.

    I say the chance of that happening is close to zero. I’d love to be proven wrong, but I see no sign Congress is willing to step up to the plate.

    Too many drug-company lobbyists, too much campaign money from the drug companies, too much fear of going up against entrenched “scientists” who keep claiming all vaccines are safe and effective.

    We’ve heard, from sources other than President Trump, that he is going to order a task force to investigate vaccine safety. We’ll see if it happens.

    Earlier this year, I wrote about a group of CDC employees who are anonymously chomping at the bit to expose criminal behavior at their agency.

    They call themselves the Spider Group—Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research. They have penned a letter to the CDC’s chief of staff, Carmen S. Villar:

    Here is the explosive accusation they make:

    “We are a group of scientists at CDC that are very concerned about the current state of ethics at our agency. It appears that our mission is being influenced and shaped by outside parties and rogue interests. It seems that our mission and Congressional intent for our agency is being circumvented by some of our leaders. What concerns us most, is that it is becoming the norm and not the rare exception.”

    “Some senior management officials at CDC are clearly aware and even condone these behaviors. Others see it and turn the other way. Some staff are intimidated and pressed to do things they know are not right.”

    “We have representatives from across the agency that witness this unacceptable behavior. It occurs at all levels and in all of our respective units. These questionable and unethical practices threaten to undermine our credibility and reputation as a trusted leader in public health.”

    Since this initial explosion, I have heard nothing from the Spider Group. Perhaps they are waiting for a signal from President Trump that it is safe to proceed.

    There is too much waiting. Whistle blower William Thompson is waiting for Congress to subpoena him. Congress is sitting on its hands, waiting. The two Merck whistle blowers are waiting for their law suit to move forward.

    Children’s futures and lives are on the line.

    Every day that passes brings new vaccine damage.

    -- Posted by JBlck on Mon, May 1, 2017, at 7:25 PM
  • Re; 4 myths

    Any article using Paul Offit as a vaccine "expert" loses credibility as an unbiased, uncompromised report.

    Paul Offit – “Doctor of Vaccine Profit” Caught Lying – Again – Orange County Register

    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/offit-lying-again/

    "Danish Study" CDC Doctor who "Debunked" Autism Vaccines Link Indicted on Fraud

    http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/04/danish-study-cdc-doctor-who-debunked-autism-v...

    CENSORED: The Atlantic buried this amazing interview with the Health Ranger after realizing his answers made too much sense

    http://www.naturalnews.com/051286_The_Atlantic_Health_Ranger_lost_interview.html...

    -- Posted by JBlck on Mon, May 1, 2017, at 7:37 PM
  • Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics

    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

    The Vaccine Autism Link

    http://www.ageofautism.com/the-vaccine-autism-link.html

    -- Posted by JBlck on Mon, May 1, 2017, at 7:47 PM
  • Jon Rappaport? Seriously?

    From his own website:

    "Jon’s independent research has encompassed such areas as: deep politics, conspiracies, alternative health, the potential of the human imagination, mind control, the medical cartel, symbology, and solutions to the takeover of the planet by hidden elites."

    Deep state conspiracy? Mind control? The AMA is a Medical Cartel? Symbology?

    I feel the need to point out to you that just because others don't agree with all the conspiracy theories that you do doesn't mean they have been subjected to mind control by the deep state. You get that, right?

    Sheesh.

    I have to ask, JB, is it your own childhood vaccinations that you feel are responsible for your condition?

    Do you have children?

    Is Alex Jones just putting on an act, as he said in court, or does he really believe all that bs he spews?

    Do you believe in ghosts, aliens, lizard people, and the Illuminati as well?

    How about the Sandy Hook murders or 9/11? Did they go down as the media said, or were they government conspiracies?

    How about a straight answer to that last question. I think people should know who we are dealing with here.

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Tue, May 2, 2017, at 7:29 AM
  • I give up JB, you may be 100% correct. I frankly don't know enough about the vaccine argument. All I know is everyone I know has been vaccinated, every one I know who has children has vaccinated their children. I have vaccinated my children. None of all those people have had any health issues what so ever outside of common illnesses (colds, strep, flu stuff). So from my experience, they are just fine.

    Now I do know much more about other conspiracy's as it is a fascination of mine. I don't believe in really any of them, but everything from FDR planned Pearl Harbor to Sandy Hook was fake have intrigued me. So I agree with SD, what other conspiracy's do you believe in? MLK? JFK? RFK? 9/11? Roswell? Lincoln? Oklahoma City? Christianity? NWO? Those I know more about and would be happy to discuss.

    -- Posted by oldschool17 on Tue, May 2, 2017, at 8:20 AM
  • Ahem....

    http://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/media-centre/position-statements/mmr-vacci...

    I guess the loudmouths at GlobalResearch are far more knowledgeable on the topic than The National Autistic Society of the UK, which, ironically is the country where the "vaccines cause autism" misinformation originated in.

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Tue, May 2, 2017, at 2:53 PM
  • Well, and while I'm here and have some more Autism news from the UK at hand.

    http://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2017/april/grandmaternal-smoking-and-autism.html

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Tue, May 2, 2017, at 2:55 PM
  • And since I am fairly sure JB will be checking in, here's a gem I ran across recently regarding someone's hero.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/12/01/comprehensive-guide-alex-jones-cons...

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Wed, May 3, 2017, at 3:30 PM
  • I just got back from Area 51. Of course, I can't get into Area 51, but I can get close. Some of the inhabitants are able to get off-base to party. They are able to do this because the aliens have hacked the security system. They learned to hack from the Russians. Anyway, the turnout was low this time. Most of the missing flight MH370 passengers stayed on-base because it was bingo night. Bigfoot was there earlier but his girlfriend dragged him off by the ear. She was really upset about something. We were sitting under the tin foil covered gazebo watching for contrails and black helicopters while sipping Scotch and fluoride-free water and smoking quasi-legal pot. Anyway, Kurt Vonnegut was partly right about the aliens. They pee gasoline but don't poop uranium. It is high-grade plutonium. Kurt was right about their color though. They aren't green; they are mauve. Anyhow, the aliens were in energy negotiations and were furious because Trump wanted too much for his enterprises. Anyway some of us got into a betting contest to see who had the biggest smallpox vaccination scar. D B Cooper won. He attributed his win to the fact that he had scratched his, even though he was told not to. We losers paid him off with bit coins and frequent-flyer miles. Alex Jones name came up in conversation and Elvis may have said it best when he said "There's something the matter with that kid". Anyhow, I think that the only reason that I am allowed to join the fun is because I always bring plenty of tin foil. Oh well.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Mon, May 8, 2017, at 1:21 AM
  • -- Posted by oldschool17 on Mon, May 8, 2017, at 10:32 AM
  • Good one, Desert.

    But, wait, what about the spider goats and human chimeras?

    -- Posted by Smart Dog on Mon, May 8, 2017, at 11:05 AM
  • http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/health/measles-minnesota-somali-anti-vaccine-bn/in...

    It must be hard to explain this by the anti-vaccine crowd.

    -- Posted by desert Rat on Mon, May 8, 2017, at 11:46 PM

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