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County Tax Dollars at Work??

Posted Friday, March 6, 2009, at 7:05 PM

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It has recently come to light that Saline County has ordered "new" plat books. I understand this is done every few years and is a reasonable/necessary investment by the county. From the details that I have access to, it appears that 200 plat books have been printed and delivered. The only problem is the data that was used was severely out-of-date and about two years old. Various county officials have already received numerous complaints about mistakes, misidentification of property owners. From the information I have heard, it appears there was a complete lack of communication between the various offices in the courthouse and the decision was made without consultation between the county commissioners and other office holders. The assessor was not consulted and was unaware that the books had even been ordered. The computer records that were used in compiling the book were a minimum of two years out of date and are not even used because of the bad/outdated information.

It would seem like it would be easy to phone, walk up a flight of stairs or call a meeting of interested, knowledgeable officials to discuss the matter. From what I understand, the County Commission decided to move ahead and authorized the purchase.

Now we have some 200 plat books that were out of date when they were delivered. I am not sure the amount of taxpayer dollars that was required to purchase these books. With the economy in a free-fall, tax revenues on the decline, new tax increases (voter approved) and expenses continually rising, it seems that every dollar should be watched very closely.

The plat books being printed now also doesn't make any sense when looking at current county projects that are underway. We have discussed the 911 Commission in the past and most citizens are aware that the process has begun to remap the entire county. This project includes the renaming of roads, adding of new signs and means a lot of our citizens will be undergoing an address change.

Even if the "new" plat books had correct information... it would only be current for less than a year. Why not wait until the mapping & new addresses are in place before spending (what I guess to be several thousand dollars) this money? Why was there no discussion/dialogue between the commission and other county officials? With the county cutting $260,000.00 is this a necessary expense? Sales taxes are down over $6,000.00 already this year and more budget cuts could be coming later this year.

We recently passed a tax for courthouse restoration and it was budgeted at $3,090,000.00 but the bids amounted to $3,600,000.00 with no bids on one of the items. The cost of the bathroom on the first floor was listed at $60,000.00. Our presiding commissioner stated "now that she has numbers to work with, she is better able to apply for more grants to fund the restoration of the historic building, which could help increase the project budget." I question the amount of money available through grants at this late date; from my experience the grant process is a long process in most cases. Cities applying for CDBG (Community Development Block Grants) usually begin a year or more before any project is started. These applications are done before any bids are open, using estimates of the projected costs.

In March 2008, MDN reported: "the county would eventually like to repair the entire courthouse. A complete renovation is expected to cost around $3.2 million." It would seem these figures were pretty accurate and the work on grants could have been started some time ago.

To paraphrase a quote attributed to Sen. Barry Goldwater: '... a million dollars here and a million dollars there and pretty soon we are talking about some real money.'

This money comes from the citizens of Saline County and our elected officials are charged with being good stewards of these funds. In tough economic times, it is more important than ever that all our tax money be scrutinized and watched closer than ever. Can we say this is happening today in Saline County?


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Who has connections with the plat company? Friends, relatives, golf buddies????? Who had money they HAD to spend or lose?? Who's doing the printing??

"Follow the money" Deep Throat, Watergate

-- Posted by NanaDot on Sat, Mar 7, 2009, at 8:33 AM

Ron, you upset that the people of Saline Co. overwelmingly voted for Becky and not you? Get all the info before posting. I really hope u try again, maybe this time youll get the hint when u lose.

-- Posted by yomomma on Sat, Mar 7, 2009, at 10:01 PM

No. I am upset to see tax money wasted on unneeded projects. I'm tired of hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent when there are less expensive options (that meet specifications) available. I would be happy to discuss/debate these matters; matters that have nothing to do with a three year old election.

-- Posted by modemocrat on Sun, Mar 8, 2009, at 10:41 AM

The concerns are legit - why order plat books NOW when all the vital information (road names, etc) are in the midst of completely changing? Do the new plat books have updated and correct information? Has the incorrect old information been corrected? This isn't rocket science - it's just plain sloppy at best if correct.

... yomomma, if you have 'all the info', instead of name=calling, why don't you enlighten us exactly as to how modem is in error...

-- Posted by NanaDot on Sun, Mar 8, 2009, at 4:32 PM

yomama please share the information that you have so that everyone will be able to decide the issue for themselves. At the moment you have left the readers of this blog not knowing whether you speak from a rational position, or just have an attitude, and speak from ignorance.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:25 AM

Go to courthouse and see if they GIVE you a platbook.

-- Posted by yomomma on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 8:47 AM

It is a little bit hard to swallow these negative posts by Mr. Monnig when he has ran for county commissioner and lost. Yomomma is right and saying that the plat books will have to be purchased.

-- Posted by moodyblue on Tue, Mar 10, 2009, at 7:46 AM

That's absurd - so what if he ran and lost, ran and won, didn't run, whatever... It's not a 'negative post' if his facts are correct. The county does not "GIVE" platbooks to anyone - they are supposed to be on file for the public to use - they are official documents held on file for the taxpayers.

The question still stands: IF they knew that all of the addresses out in the county were going to change (and since they HIRED the 911-contractors, one must assume that they knew this was happening), and IF they knew that the old platbooks contained errors (which happens over time and must be periodically corrected)that were NOT corrected, and IF the county funds are short, then the question is WHY did they blow the cash for platbooks that were obsolete before they were printed?

-- Posted by NanaDot on Tue, Mar 10, 2009, at 11:10 PM

NanaDot: A couple of things you should know about plat books:

1) They aren't "official" documents, at least not in the sense that they can be used to prove or disprove ownership, specifically not in a court of law. In the front of most plat books is a disclaimer to that effect.

2) They are often given away, mostly by the company that publishes them - one company gives a free copy of the county plat book to every farmer in the county.

3) The most recent edition of the Saline County plat book DOES contain the correct road names for E-911.

4) Plat books are *always* out of date when published; it's the nature of the publication process.

5) The plat books are published on a break-even basis - sales of advertising and sales of the books themselves come very close to offsetting the cost of publication.

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Tue, Apr 7, 2009, at 2:09 PM


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Ron Monnig has more than 35 years of experience working with civic, community and political groups. He has served in elected, appointed and volunteer positions since high school. He has a Bachelor of Arts degree in History/Government from Columbia College. He is a Democratic party activist; VP of Saline County Democrat Club, Member of Democrat Central Committee of Saline County.