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Guns, Agriculture, Seniors, Race & Politics

Posted Friday, October 17, 2008, at 3:22 PM

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Presidential Debate III
As Election Day draws closer to the finish line let's take a look at a couple of 'issue's' that seem to be drawing some interest.

Guns: There are ads being run on local radio stations that are misleading (if not outright lies) regarding Sen. Obama's stance on gun issues. The ads basically say Obama wants to ban all guns & will take away your shotguns, handguns, etc.

This is NOT true. His view on this issue can be found here: http://obama.3cdn.net/7d467fe75a3029d7df...

Out of 129 races examined the NRA endorsed 106 Republicans & 23 Democrats (18 of the 23 are unopposed) When the NRA "grades" were equal the tie goes to the Republican candidate. My first memory of this 'issue' was in 1976 and the NRA was saying the Democrats are 'going to take your guns'; not true then, not true now. It is another example of the campaign tactic of "fear & smear". When facts get in the way, the result is to try and scare people into voting a particular way. Name me one politician in the last 30 years that has stood up & said 'I am going to take your guns away from you.' It simply will not happen!

Agriculture: Saline County is an agricultural based area; farming, renewable/alternate energy programs could very well provide an economic boom for our county. It would allow Saline County to become a leader in this emerging field. With the new algae plant being discussed this could be an extremely important factor in the future of our county. Some of Obama's plan calls for: "Help create five million new jobs by strategically investing $150 billion over the next ten years to catalyze private efforts to build a clean energy future. Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable sources by 2012, and 25 percent by 2025." John McCain has said that he wants to ELIMINATE ALL SUBSIDIES FOR ETHANOL facilities. His answer to our problems calls for more drilling for oil & natural gas; estimates are that it will take 7 10 years before any of these products would reach the American consumer. He also proposes massive, permanent tax breaks to the oil/gas companies for their R&D. I guess with profits so low it wouldn't make sense for Exxon, Mobile, etc to have to pay for this themselves.

Seniors: Seniors need to examine their current health care and prepare for the 'McCain health plan.' According to the WSJ, McCain's senior economic adviser Douglas Holtz Eakin admitted to a reporter that the Senator's reforms would "result in cuts of $1.3 trillion to Medicare and Medicaid." His plan also calls for taxing health insurance benefits for the first time in American history. His proposal also calls for a "tax credit' to help citizens pay for their health insurance. Unfortunately, according to studies this credit will only cover 50% or less of the average cost Americans now spend on health insurance.

Race: This may be the most delicate and unspoken aspect of this presidential election. As much as I hate to say it; I have spoken with many citizens from Saline County that have stated: " There is no way I will vote for a (N Word)or a variation such as "I would never vote for a"(same racist term). Many of these folks are self described "strong democrats." Nothing could be further from the truth. This country fought this battle about 150 years ago in the Civil War. Even after its conclusion, it took another 100 years before equal access to voting, education, housing, etc. became a reality. I prefer to look towards the future and what/how we will conquer the challenges of the 21st century; I don't have the time nor desire to revisit issues of the 19th century unless it is in the context of learning from past mistakes. I overheard an opinion last week that I could not agree with more: If you are going to base your vote on personal prejudice then you obviously do not care about your country. This is basically saying that your personal prejudice is more important to you than the future of America. Your hate triumphs over your belief in God, country and the very foundation & principles this nation was founded upon.


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CORRECTION: The sentence referring to how long it would take for new drilling to reach the consumer should have read 7 - 10 years; not 710....I apologize for the mistake.

-- Posted by modemocrat on Fri, Oct 17, 2008, at 10:06 PM

modemocrat: Thank you for taking on the 'delicate issue' of race... it bears repeating:

"If you are going to base your vote on personal prejudice then you obviously do not care about your country. This is basically saying that your personal prejudice is more important to you than the future of America. Your hate triumphs over your belief in God, country and the very foundation & principles this nation was founded upon."

-- Posted by NanaDot on Sat, Oct 18, 2008, at 10:39 AM

On second thought - just re-read the whole thing...my mother is over 70 and I am not too sure I want to trust a guy who gets gold-standard senior care paid for by US while he cuts those who can't afford to buy their own...

-- Posted by NanaDot on Sat, Oct 18, 2008, at 10:41 AM

-- Posted by judymorris58 on Sat, Oct 18, 2008, at 7:42 PM

I too, hear racial slurs all the time. It frustrates you to think some people still haven't' evolved over the last 100 years. Anytime that I hear racial slurs made about Senator Obama I ask that individual if they believe I have the right to vote. I often get looks of puzzlement but I then explain that I may not be African American, but I am a women. If someone's ignorance blinds them because the nominee is African American then those same individuals may believe I shouldn't vote because of my sex. It disgusts me to see some people still haven't moved on. I must say I agree 100% with what you said

"If you are going to base your vote on personal prejudice then you obviously do not care about your country. This is basically saying that your personal prejudice is more important to you than the future of America. Your hate triumphs over your belief in God, country and the very foundation & principles this nation was founded upon."

Don't base your vote on someone's skin color. Base it on their beliefs, experience, knowledge, and the issues that actually matter. Does the color of someone's skin make them more intelligent or ignorant? What about someone's sex, does that determine their capacity of knowledge? I don't think so! Thank you for addressing this issue, it's about time someone did!

-- Posted by jl32320 on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 10:36 AM

It is stupid in the extreme to base your vote on race! Our country has suffered enough from those attitudes. Think of all the possibilities, disease cures, music, culture, and even more things that our country has not benefited by because we the white race has put down the brown and black races over the years. By keeping up discrimination for non-whites we ALL Americans suffer. I have had non-white nurses and doctors who have cared for my health. Just think if those professionals had not been there to help I might not be here today. How many more of my ancestors could have been helped by a black or brown person? Maybe we might have more productive corn or beans. Maybe we might have solved the energy crisis. When we put down anybody because of their race we all are hurt by that action. We lose those persons talents when they are discriminated against because of race.

As far as this year's election I will not base my vote on race. I will go even as far to say Senator Obama's ideas are a heck of a lot better for the middle class than Senator McCain.

-- Posted by salinemg on Mon, Oct 20, 2008, at 9:15 PM

One should not deny McCain one's vote because of ageism any more than one should deny Obama a vote because of racism. However, if one is concerned because he appears cranky, tempermental, forgetful, makes poor choices, and repeats himself far too often, those are reasons to not vote for him. They are also reasons to put a small child to bed.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 12:27 AM

Let's put OKR up for president -

-- Posted by NanaDot on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 1:37 AM

Hey Ronnie -

You have a right to question others' motives - but please don't do so under a picture that has obviously been photo-shopped or otherwise "enhanced."

Your motives seem suspect when you lower yourself to such "tricks" to get your personal views across.

Just a friendly comment.

-- Posted by circuitrider on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 11:44 AM

pulpitrider: Just another friendly comment...I believe you are mistaken that the owner of this blog enhanced or photoshopped this photo. This photo hasn't had anything done to it - for McCain, it's the unfortunate product of a brief moment that was caught on tape.

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 12:07 PM

Thanks Kathy

And my apologies to Councilman Monnig - hard to believe a photo like that could be REAL.

Ron's been an acquaintance for many years - no personal slight meant.

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-- Posted by circuitrider on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 12:25 PM

pulpitrider: It's actually a photo from the British news agency Reuters. I read a story on it, and how it came to be, but now can't find the source. I'll keep looking. It's a very unfortunate photo, no question.

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 2:01 PM

pulpitrider: Okay, sort of found what I was looking for. McCain was reacting to almost going the wrong way offstage when the photo was shot.

Most photographers use a continuous mode when they're shooting an event where there is a lot of movement, as would be the case here. You just hold down the shutter and the camera clicks away. My best guess is that's what happened and the photographer released the shot. It was, at best, an unkind thing to do. I'd hate to have a camera on me every waking moment, wouldn't you?

-- Posted by Kathy Fairchild on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 2:12 PM

Just to set the record straight; I don't own 'photo-shop' & doubt I have the skill to put together a pic like the one above. The picture was taken after the third debate and can be found here:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/the-many-faces-of-john-mc_n_135255.html#

There are no "tricks" involved, just trying to voice my opinions. My only "motive" is to elect the person, who IMHO, is best able to lead our country.

-- Posted by modemocrat on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 4:02 PM

Thanks NanaDot. Compliments from you are meaningful.

I admire you because of the breadth of your knowlege, your tenacious research, your perserverance when being stared down by ignorance.....I could go on.

I am sure you are aware of those wee small hour agonies that occur when one is faced with the full implications of our greed inspired legacy to the little ones, and the unborn. At those times I have occasionally been rewarded for my concern, by a mental pop up that makes me chuckle. Last night was one of those moments, albeit a somewhat bitter chuckle.

-- Posted by Oklahoma Reader on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 11:32 PM


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Ron Monnig has more than 35 years of experience working with civic, community and political groups. He has served in elected, appointed and volunteer positions since high school. He has a Bachelor of Arts degree in History/Government from Columbia College. He is a Democratic party activist; VP of Saline County Democrat Club, Member of Democrat Central Committee of Saline County.